How Do You Determine the Absolute Extrema of the Function ln(x)/x?

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The discussion revolves around determining the absolute extrema of the function ln(x)/x, including the process of finding critical numbers and evaluating the function's behavior. Participants also touch on a different function involving trigonometric identities and its critical points.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about finding critical numbers for the function ln(x)/x, suggesting that they have identified x = e as a critical point but are unsure how to proceed.
  • Another participant suggests sketching the function to understand its behavior, noting that it approaches -infinity as x approaches 0, peaks at x = e, and then decreases towards 0 as x approaches infinity.
  • A later reply corrects the earlier claim that x = 0 is a critical number, stating that ln(x)/x is not defined at x = 0, confirming that x = e is the only critical point.
  • Another participant raises a separate question about finding critical numbers for a different function involving trigonometric terms, indicating uncertainty about whether they are working with the original function or its derivative.
  • They provide a method for finding critical points by analyzing the numerator and denominator of the derivative, leading to a quadratic equation in terms of sin(x).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that x = e is a critical point for ln(x)/x, but there is no consensus on the next steps for determining absolute extrema. The discussion about the trigonometric function remains unresolved, with differing approaches and interpretations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions and conditions under which the functions are evaluated, particularly concerning the domain of ln(x)/x and the behavior of the trigonometric function. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in finding critical points for the second function.

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I have a funtion which is ln(x)/x

The derivative is 1-ln(x)\x^2

I need to find the absolute max and absolute min. Now I know I need to find the critical numbers first then plug into f(x) but I am having trouble finding the critical numbers..

x^2 = 0 so x = 0

1-ln(x) = 0 so x = e

But now Iam confused on what to do. Thanks
 
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Also Iam not sure what to do or how to find the critical numbers of this:

-[(cos(x))^2 + (sin x)(sin x) + 2]/(sin x + 2)^2
 
anyone??
 
For ln(x)/x, you should try to sketch the function to see what it does. As far as I can tell, it starts at x=0, f(x) = -infinity, climbs sharply to a peak at x = e, f(x) = 1/e, and then slopes downwards towards x = infinity, f(x) tending to 0. So the only finite turning point is at x = e.
 
So now would i just plug e in the function and see what number is produced to determine my max and min?
 
For the first problem, x= 0 is NOT a critical number because the function itself, ln(x)/x is not defined at x= 0 but x= e is.

Also Iam not sure what to do or how to find the critical numbers of this:

-[(cos(x))^2 + (sin x)(sin x) + 2]/(sin x + 2)^2
Is that the original function or its derivative?
I ask since the derivative of cos(x)/(sin(x)+ 2) is (-sin(x)(sin(x)+ 2)+ cos^2(x))/(sin(x)+ 2)^2, similar to what you have (but not exactly equal).
If that is the derivative then you critical points are where the fraction is equal to 0 or does not exist. A fraction is 0 if and only if its numerator is 0, does not exist if and only if its denominator is 0 so you need to find where the numerator -sin(x)(sin(x)+ 2)+ cos^2(x)= 0 and where the denominator (sin(x)+ 2)^2= 0. Since sin(x) is never equal to -2, the denominator is never 0. Rewrite the first equation (and notice it is my version, not yours) as -sin^2(x)- 2sin(x)+ 1- sin^2(x)= 0 or 2sin^2(x)+ 2 sin(x)- 1= 0. I would write that as y^2+ 2y= 1 (with y= sin(x)) and complete the square: y^2+ 2y+ 1= 2 so (y+ 1)^2= 2. y= -1+ sqrt(2) and y= -1- sqrt(2). sin(x)= -1+ sqrt(2) gives x= arctan(sqrt(2)-1) but there is no x such that sin(x)= -1- sqrt(2) since that is less than -1.
 

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