How do you find the dimension of the null space of a matrix A?

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The discussion revolves around determining the dimension of the null space of an nxn matrix A, given that A raised to the power of n equals zero while A raised to the power of n-1 does not. Participants are exploring the implications of these conditions on the null space and its properties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the null space of A and its powers, particularly questioning how the null space of A^(n-1) relates to that of A^n. There are attempts to establish inequalities regarding the dimensions of these null spaces based on the properties of the matrix.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning assumptions and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationships between the null spaces, but no consensus has been reached on the final dimension of the null space of A.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of the matrix being nxn and the conditions provided, such as the behavior of the null space as n varies. There is a focus on the implications of the dimensions of the null spaces and the potential for inductive reasoning to establish relationships between them.

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Homework Statement



Given A is nxn matrix. An=0 and An-1 \neq 0.
Find dim(null (A))

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I split An= A An-1=0.
From this, I conclude that

column space of An-1\subseteqnull space of A

because if we think that

An-1=[v1 v2 v3 v4 ...] (vi is column vector of An-1),

we can get
An=A An-1 =[Av1 Av2 Av3 ...] = 0.

Then, dim(null(A))\geqdim(Col(A^{n-1})).

2.dim(null(An))=n since An=0.

3.dim(null(An-1)) \leq dim(null(An))
Since if we let v be in null space of An-1, we can get Anv=0.
Then we conclude that v is in null space of An
 
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could you show that null(A^(n-1)) is a subset of null(A^n)? and consider a form of induction back to A?
 
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Just to be sure aren't we going to say

\begin{pmatrix}a_{11} & a_{12} & \ldots & a_{1n} \\ \vdots &\vdots & \vdots & \vdots \\ a_{n1} & a_{n2} & \cdots & a_{nn} \end{pmatrix}^n = \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ \vdots \\ 0_n \end{pmatrix}

When the vectors which spans the corresponding Vectorspace V then this has the dimension n if and only n > 1? Hence the second condition?

Doesn't this result in the that as long as n > 1 that the dimension of the nullspace meaning the set of solutions for Ax = 0 will have dimension n?? Because V contains and infinite number of vectors??
 
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i was more thinking clearly thinking the nullspace of A^n is all of R^n..

Clearly the nullspace of A^n-1, must be less than that and so is a proper subset of null(A^n)

If you could show that for similar i, i-1, then you would inductively get to the point where dim(null(A))=1, though i haven't worked through the details and there may be another way to get there
 

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