How Do You Find the PDF of Z and Calculate Mean and Variance Using MGF?

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The discussion revolves around finding the probability density function (pdf) of a random variable Z defined as the sum of two random variables X and Y, given their joint pdf. Additionally, participants explore how to calculate the mean and variance of a random variable X using its moment generating function (mgf).

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  • One participant presents a joint pdf for random variables X and Y and asks how to find the pdf of Z = X + Y.
  • Another participant mentions that the moments can be derived from the mgf by taking derivatives and evaluating at t = 0, noting the relationship between variance and moments.
  • A later reply suggests using a transformation approach to find the pdf of Z, proposing to set u = x + y and apply the transformation theorem.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the method for finding the pdf of Z, as multiple approaches are suggested. The second question regarding the mean and variance of X seems to have been resolved by one participant, but the first question remains open for discussion.

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Participants express uncertainty about the integration techniques required for the first question and the application of the transformation theorem. There is also a lack of clarity on the limits of integration when applying the transformation.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals studying probability theory, particularly those interested in joint distributions, moment generating functions, and transformations of random variables.

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Hi guys,

I'm really stuck on the following questions, not sure as to how to approach it:

Let X and Y be random variables for which the joint pdf is as follows:

f(x,y) = 2(x+y) for 0 <= x <= y <= 1
and 0 otherwise.

Find the pdf of Z = X + Y

And also:

Suppose that X is a random variable for which the mgf is as follows:

/u(t) = e^(t^2 + 3t) for minus infinity < t < infinity

Find the mean and variance for X.
I know that the answers are 3 and 2 respectively, but was unsure how they got to the answer, do I need to integrate by parts?

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks guys :)
 
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silkdigital said:
Hi guys,

I'm really stuck on the following questions, not sure as to how to approach it:

Let X and Y be random variables for which the joint pdf is as follows:

f(x,y) = 2(x+y) for 0 <= x <= y <= 1
and 0 otherwise.

Find the pdf of Z = X + Y

And also:

Suppose that X is a random variable for which the mgf is as follows:

/u(t) = e^(t^2 + 3t) for minus infinity < t < infinity

Find the mean and variance for X.
I know that the answers are 3 and 2 respectively, but was unsure how they got to the answer, do I need to integrate by parts?

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks guys :)

I'll address the second question only. The moments are obtained from the moment generating function by simply taking derivatives and setting t = 0. As you must be aware, the variance is the second moment minus square of first moment.
 
Figured out second question now, pretty straightforward in hindsight. Any help on the first one? ;)
 
silkdigital said:
Figured out second question now, pretty straightforward in hindsight. Any help on the first one? ;)

Have you tried a transformation? Let u = x + y. Now use that transformation to get a integral in terms of u, take into account limits and then use transformation theorem to relate g(u) = 2(x+y) = 2u to another PDF f(u) which represents the distribution of Z.
 

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