How Do You Graphically Represent a Change of Variables in a Coordinate System?

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This discussion focuses on graphically representing changes of variables in a coordinate system, specifically using the equations y² = x² - c and y = 2uv. The user seeks clarification on how to plot these equations for various constants c, noting that the curves resemble hourglasses and intersect at right angles. The conversation highlights the importance of marking each curve with its corresponding value of c and suggests plotting multiple curves on the same graph to illustrate the relationships between the families of hyperbolas.

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hi,
i need to know how to plot the change of variables
am i just to take x, and y as different constants, and treat it as normally on the (u,v) axis? so for the first, it will be like plotting on the (x,y) axis something like y^2 = x^2 - c, for different c, how many lines would i need to plot? and how would i mark it? would i say what c is each time
just to be sure these are the right lines, they are curvy like a hourglass, and they meet the axis at sqrt(c) on each side, so for each c we get two of these curves, so i need to plot all this twice. and then, also for the y=2uv, do i also plot this many times (for the same c) would i need to put all this lines on to the same plot? and mark each time which is c?

OR DO I NEED TO SHOW JUST WHERE X AND Y ARE BOTH CONSTANT? the wording has ambiguity.
 
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GreenGoblin said:
hi,
i need to know how to plot the change of variables
am i just to take x, and y as different constants, and treat it as normally on the (u,v) axis? so for the first, it will be like plotting on the (x,y) axis something like y^2 = x^2 - c, for different c, how many lines would i need to plot? and how would i mark it? would i say what c is each time
just to be sure these are the right lines, they are curvy like a hourglass, and they meet the axis at sqrt(c) on each side, so for each c we get two of these curves, so i need to plot all this twice. and then, also for the y=2uv, do i also plot this many times (for the same c) would i need to put all this lines on to the same plot? and mark each time which is c?

OR DO I NEED TO SHOW JUST WHERE X AND Y ARE BOTH CONSTANT? the wording has ambiguity.
I think this is the sort of thing they are looking for (it's an image I found online by searching for "orthogonal hyperbola family"). The family of "y=2uv" hyperbolas looks like the family of "hourglass" hyperbolas rotated through 45º. The important thing about the two families of curves is that wherever a curve from one family meets a curve from the other family, they intersect at right angles to each other.

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Yes, that's right. The "family" x^2- y^2= C satisfies 2x- 2y y'= 0 or y'= x/y and so the "orthogonal family", the family of all curves that are perpendicular to any curves in the first family must satisfy y'= -y/x. That is the same as dy/dx= -y/x or dy/y= -dx/x. Integrating, ln(y)= -ln(x)+ C[/itex] which is the same ln(y)+ ln(x)= ln(xy)= C so that xy= e^C= C'. To graph those, let C be a number of different values. Perhaps positive and negative integers would be simplest.
 

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