How Do You Integrate f(x) = sqrt(1 + 1/x)?

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function f(x) = sqrt(1 + 1/x) and its variations, including f(x) = sqrt(1 + 1/(x^2)). Participants explore different substitution methods and approaches to tackle the integration problem.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants suggest various substitutions, such as tan u = x and w = 1/x, while questioning the effectiveness of these methods. Some express confusion regarding the integration process and the correct form of the function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing different methods and questioning their validity. Some guidance has been offered regarding substitutions and integration techniques, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct formulation of the function, as one participant acknowledges a mistake in the power of x. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty about the integration techniques applicable to the problem.

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how am i going to integrate this one?

f(x) = sqrt( 1 + 1/x )

sorry for not using the symbol.. because not so familiar with that .. ^.^
 
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try substituting tan u = x
 
does tan u = x work with f(x) = sqrt( 1 + (e^x)/4 ) ?
 
did you solve the earlier?

RyozKidz said:
does tan u = x work with f(x) = sqrt( 1 + (e^x)/4 ) ?

it didn't work

if tan u = (e^(x/2)) / 2 would work i guess
 
waaaaaaa, how come, i get sqrt(4+ex)

thats weird
 
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how did you figure out ? By intuition ?
sorry , i think i have some mistake on the earlier question i posted .

i forgot to raise the power of x to 2
the f(x) should be f(x) = sqrt( 1 + 1/(x^2) )

sorry about that ..~
 
RyozKidz said:
i forgot to raise the power of x to 2
the f(x) should be f(x) = sqrt( 1 + 1/(x^2) )

Have you figured this one out yet?
 
owho, if your question sqrt( 1 + 1/x ) then use tan u = sqrt(x)


if sqrt( 1 + 1/(x^2) ) then use tan u = x


hmm, there are many ways, but for me, i imagine of a triangle

sqrt( 1 + 1/(x2) ) = (sqrt(x2+1))/ x

hmm how should i draw the triangle,

or wait until some other explanation people give,

i try scanning my triangle for a while. ngahahaha
 
View attachment scan0001.pdf

there, hmm how do i choose those values on triangle by intuition i guess, try to make it same as your equation.

im really good in english tough, i hope someone can explain it more detail
 
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gabbagabbahey said:
Have you figured this one out yet?

haven't ..~ no idea before annoymage replied my post~

annoymage : woww..~ never thought of that methods ...~
 
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In that case, you'll probably find it easiest if you make the substitution [itex]w=\frac{1}{x}[/itex] and integrate by parts once before making the trig substitution annoymage suggested. Give it a try and post your attempt.
 
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I don't think integration by parts will go anywhere.

Integration tables.

You can obtain the the first integration form by substitution.

[tex]\int\frac{\sqrt{a+bu}}{u^2}du=\frac{-\sqrt{a+bu}}{u}+\frac{b}{2}*\int\frac{du}{u\sqrt{a+bu}}[/tex]

[tex]\int\frac{du}{u\sqrt{a+bu}}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a}}*ln{\left|\frac{\sqrt{a+bu}-\sqrt{a}}{\sqrt{a+bu}+\sqrt{a}}\right|}[/tex]
 
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Dustinsfl said:
I don't think integration by parts will go anywhere...

[tex]\int\frac{\sqrt{a+bu}}{u^2}du=\frac{-\sqrt{a+bu}}{u}+\frac{b}{2}*\int\frac{du}{u\sqrt{a+bu}}[/tex]

This is integration by parts. The tables of integrals are derived using the same methods of calculus taught to students.
 

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