How Do You Solve for Omega in Spinning Mass Homework?

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The discussion focuses on solving for omega in a spinning mass scenario using Newton's second law in polar coordinates. The participant successfully derived the relationship between angular momentum and the radial position function, concluding that omega(t) can be expressed as omega_0*(r_0)^2/[r_0 - v*t]^2. Key equations utilized include F(θ)=m[rθ"+r'θ'] and the centripetal force equation m*v^2/r = m*omega^2*r. The participant acknowledges the importance of correctly representing the radial function r(t) for accurate calculations.

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Homework Statement


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My professor gave the following hints:
Write down what you know about how r (position of mass from hole)
varies with time. Then write Newton's 2nd law in polar coordinates.
For part (a), the differential equation that you are looking for comes
from the F_theta = ma_theta equation. Part (b) involves integrating
the result from part (a), and Part (c) uses the F_r = ma_r equation.

Homework Equations


F(θ)=m[rθ"+r'θ']

The Attempt at a Solution


For part a, I labeled the force of tension pointing towards the hole. And that's the only force I had.

For part B, I tried doing this:
r=vt (same v of the rope)
r'=v
r'=0

θ=wt
θ'=w
θ"=0

Then, I plugged the above results into the equation:
F(theta)=[rθ"+2r'θ']
F=0+2(-v)w

I then got:
θ''=θ'
m(-v)w=-bw(given)
bw(given)/m=w

Would this be right? I do not thinkso...Thanks all!
 
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You know that angular momentum will be constant.

angular momentum = m*omega_0*(r_0)^2 = m*omega(t)*(r(t))^2

but r(t) = [r_0 - v*t]

so omega(t) = omega_0*(r_0)^2/[r_0 - v*t]^2

Also the centripetal force = m*v^2/r = m*omega^2*r

We know omega and r so we should know the centripetal force.

?
 
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Oh, that's right. I misrepresented my r(t) function.

We had to use Diffy Q's to solve the equation, so I did manage to do:
rΘ"+2rΘ'=0

Then ended up with:
m*omega_0*(r_0)^2 = m*omega(t)*(r(t))^2
(Which I thought was wicked cool equation because I completely forgot about conversation of angular momentum).

Thank you for your help! It's good to know that I could have made that assumption from the start, and thank you for fixing my r(t) function!
 

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