How Do You Solve These Challenging Physics Problems?

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The discussion revolves around two physics problems involving equilibrium and spring mechanics. The first problem concerns a mass inside a rotating tube and its equilibrium position, while the second problem involves a mass suspended from a spring and its extension under different weights.

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  • Participants explore the application of Hooke's law to determine the force and extension of the spring in the second problem. There are attempts to clarify the distinction between total length and the amount of stretch in the spring. Questions arise regarding the initial conditions and the nature of motion in the first problem.

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Some participants have provided calculations and hints, particularly regarding the application of formulas for force and spring extension. There is ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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One participant notes a lack of prior physics education, which may impact their understanding of the problems. Additionally, there is a request for guidance on showing work for the solutions.

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Two Physics Problems .. plsss help ??!

Q1 :

The figure shows a mass M inside a tube bent in a circle of radius R=1.20 m. M can slide with negligible friction inside the tube. The tube rotates about a vertical axis passing through the center. The mass is in equilibrium at q =56.5 degrees. Calculate the number of revolution the hoop makes in 12.0 s.

THE FIGURE : http://www3.0zz0.com/2006/12/22/10/35335598.gif

Q2:

A 8.40 kg mass suspended from a spring with spring constant, k = 800.0 N/m, extends it to a total length of 0.270 m. Find the total length of the spring when a 13.40 kg mass is suspended from it.
 
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orange_angel said:
Q1 :

The figure shows a mass M inside a tube bent in a circle of radius R=1.20 m. M can slide with negligible friction inside the tube. The tube rotates about a vertical axis passing through the center. The mass is in equilibrium at q =56.5 degrees. Calculate the number of revolution the hoop makes in 12.0 s.

THE FIGURE : http://www3.0zz0.com/2006/12/22/10/35335598.gif

Q2:

A 8.40 kg mass suspended from a spring with spring constant, k = 800.0 N/m, extends it to a total length of 0.270 m. Find the total length of the spring when a 13.40 kg mass is suspended from it.
You will have to show what you have done to attempt a solution.

AM
 
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the second question :i don't know how to begin !
...
the first question

F=kx, where F is the force applied, k is the spring constant and x is the distance stretched.

k = 800 N/m
x=0.270
F=kx=800*0.270=216N/m

I don't know how to find the total length of the spring ..

[ i never learn physics before .. i have many problems ! I'm trying to be better ..]
 
orange_angel said:
k = 800 N/m
x=0.270
F=kx=800*0.270=216N/m
Careful: 0.270 m is the total length of the spring, not the amount of stretch. Use Hooke's law to figure out how much the spring stretched when the weight was added--this will allow you to calculate the unstretched length.

Hint for question #1: What kind of motion does the mass undergo? What kind of acceleration?
 
ok ..

in question 2 :

maybe i have to do that :

F=mg=13.40*9.81=131.454 N

x=F/k=131.454/800=0.1643m


is it right ??
 
orange_angel said:
maybe i have to do that :

F=mg=13.40*9.81=131.454 N

x=F/k=131.454/800=0.1643m
That's certainly an essential step in solving the problem. What is the meaning of what you have calculated, and how does it relate to the final solution?
 

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