How Does a Perturbed Electric Dipole Exhibit Simple Harmonic Motion?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a molecule with an electric dipole moment in an electric field when perturbed from its equilibrium position. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the dipole exhibits simple harmonic motion (SHM) and calculating the frequency of this motion in terms of the dipole moment, electric field, and moment of inertia.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the angular equation of motion for the dipole and the torque due to the electric field. There is consideration of the effects of gravity and the simplifications made for small angles. Questions arise about the validity of assumptions made regarding the form of the torque and its relation to SHM.

Discussion Status

Some participants have expressed confidence in the equivalence of the derived equation to the standard form of SHM. Others are exploring the implications of the solutions to the differential equation and questioning the identification of angular frequency in the context of their solutions. The discussion is ongoing with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework guidelines, focusing on deriving relationships without providing complete solutions. There is an emphasis on understanding the assumptions behind the mathematical formulations presented.

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Homework Statement


A molecule with electric dipole moment ##\underline{p}## is initially aligned in an electric field ##\underline{E}## . If this molecule is perturbated from its equilbrium position by a small angle, show that it will perform simple harmonic motion.

Calculate the frequency of this motion in terms of p, E and I

The Attempt at a Solution


What I did first was write the angular EOM for the dipole: Consider it perturbed at some angle ##\theta##. This gives a torque due to the force by the electric field about the centre of the dipole. I could also consider the torque due to gravity, however, I took gravity to be acting through the centre of mass of the dipole and since I take the torques about the centre, I can ignore it. My final expression is $$I \alpha = -pE\sin \theta\,\Rightarrow\,I \alpha = -pE \theta,$$ if I take the dipole moment p = dq, sinθ ≈ θ for small θ and the -ve because the torque acts to lower θ.

Is it enough to say from here that since this is in the form ##\tau = -k \theta,## with ##k = pE##, then the motion is simple harmonic?

If so, I can say that $$T = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{I}{k}}\,\Rightarrow\,f = \frac{1}{2 \pi}\sqrt{\frac{k}{I}}\,\Rightarrow\,f = \frac{1}{2\pi} \sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}.$$ The dimensions check but have I made appropriate assumptions etc and is it okay to state we have the form ##\tau = -k\theta## so SHM applies?
Many thanks
 
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CAF123 said:

Homework Statement


A molecule with electric dipole moment ##\underline{p}## is initially aligned in an electric field ##\underline{E}## . If this molecule is perturbated from its equilbrium position by a small angle, show that it will perform simple harmonic motion.

Calculate the frequency of this motion in terms of p, E and I

The Attempt at a Solution


What I did first was write the angular EOM for the dipole: Consider it perturbed at some angle ##\theta##. This gives a torque due to the force by the electric field about the centre of the dipole. I could also consider the torque due to gravity, however, I took gravity to be acting through the centre of mass of the dipole and since I take the torques about the centre, I can ignore it. My final expression is $$I \alpha = -pE\sin \theta\,\Rightarrow\,I \alpha = -pE \theta,$$ if I take the dipole moment p = dq, sinθ ≈ θ for small θ and the -ve because the torque acts to lower θ.

Is it enough to say from here that since this is in the form ##\tau = -k \theta,## with ##k = pE##, then the motion is simple harmonic?

If so, I can say that $$T = 2\pi \sqrt{\frac{I}{k}}\,\Rightarrow\,f = \frac{1}{2 \pi}\sqrt{\frac{k}{I}}\,\Rightarrow\,f = \frac{1}{2\pi} \sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}.$$ The dimensions check but have I made appropriate assumptions etc and is it okay to state we have the form ##\tau = -k\theta## so SHM applies?
Many thanks
The equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ \ I \alpha = -pE \theta\,, \[/itex] is enough to show Simple Harmonic Motion.

It's equivalent to the differential equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ \ I \frac{d^2\theta}{dt^2} = -pE \theta\ .[/itex]
 
SammyS said:
The equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ \ I \alpha = -pE \theta\,, \[/itex] is enough to show Simple Harmonic Motion.

It's equivalent to the differential equation, [itex]\displaystyle \ \ I \frac{d^2\theta}{dt^2} = -pE \theta\ .[/itex]

Thanks SammyS.
I realized I could express my eqn in the form $$\ddot{\theta} + \frac{pE}{I} \theta = 0,$$ which obviously has sin and cos as solutions.

One further question I have is that when I solve this eqn I get $$\theta = A\cos \left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\right)t + B\sin \left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\right)t $$,

How do I know that ##\omega## (angular freq)is necessarily the argument of sin and cos? I seem to be taking it for granted.
 
CAF123 said:
Thanks SammyS.
I realized I could express my eqn in the form $$\ddot{\theta} + \frac{pE}{I} \theta = 0,$$ which obviously has sin and cos as solutions.

One further question I have is that when I solve this eqn I get $$\theta = A\cos \left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\right)t + B\sin \left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\right)t\ ,$$
How do I know that ##\omega## (angular freq)is necessarily the argument of sin and cos? I seem to be taking it for granted.
What is the period of [itex]\displaystyle \ \cos \left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\ t\right)\ ?[/itex]
 
SammyS said:
What is the period of [itex]\displaystyle \ \cos \left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\ t\right)\ ?[/itex]
It has period $$\frac{2\pi}{\left(\sqrt{\frac{pE}{I}}\right)}$$ I see how the result follows. Thanks again.
 

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