How does a the vertical force of gravity end in horizontal motion?

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The discussion centers on how vertical falling water can disperse horizontally upon impact, attributed to radial pressure differences. Participants explain that when water hits a surface, it deforms and creates pressure that pushes some of it outward. A comparison is made to squishy rubber balls that deform and push apart upon impact, illustrating the concept of force distribution. The conversation also touches on the atomic level, noting that individual atoms experience similar bouncing effects, which contribute to the overall pressure dynamics. Ultimately, the focus remains on understanding the forces at play in the horizontal motion of water after a vertical drop.
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When a stream of water falls perfectly vertical, some water hitting the surface will disperse horizontally. What is the force that causes this? References would be awesome!
 
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Boltzmann Oscillation said:
What is the force that causes this?
Radial pressure difference.
 
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Boltzmann Oscillation said:
some water hitting the surface will disperse horizontally. What is the force that causes this?
To help you see why the reply by @A.T. is correct, you can picture two squishy rubber balls, dropped side-by-side touching each other. When they impact the ground at the same time, they both deform during the bounce and bulge outward on the sides. This causes the two balls to push on each other during the bounce, causing them to bounce apart instead of straight back up.

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berkeman said:
To help you see why the reply by @A.T. is correct, you can picture two squishy rubber balls, dropped side-by-side touching each other. When they impact the ground at the same time, they both deform during the bounce and bulge outward on the sides. This causes the two balls to push on each other during the bounce, causing them to bounce apart instead of straight back up.

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Wow that really helped me understand the concept. Now when I searched for radial pressure, I only found engineering topics. Is radial pressure not encountered in a physics curriculum? How would this apply to water? Do the individual atoms bounce apart from each other too?
 
Boltzmann Oscillation said:
Do the individual atoms bounce apart from each other too?
On the atomic level that's what happens. On the macroscopic level we use the concept of pressure which is the average result of all this bouncing.
 
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A.T. said:
Radial pressure difference.

I would prefer to express it as Radial external pressure differences.

In other words, among others, It is the boundary conditions that determine the movement of the droplet, or of the parts of it.
 
miltos said:
It is the boundary conditions that determine the movement of the droplet, or of the parts of it.
The OP asks about a stream of water, not a droplet. The question is, as far I can see, about the initial horizontal acceleration of the water, not about droplet formation.
 
Ohhh, i didn't noticed that.
I any case, it is just a variant of the same question.
 

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