How Does an Electron Move in a Magnetic Field Within a Cloud Chamber?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the motion of an electron in a magnetic field within a cloud chamber, specifically addressing the nature of the electron's trajectory when its path is not perpendicular to the magnetic field. The conversation explores the implications of the Lorentz force equation and the characteristics of the resulting path.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the electron's path will describe a spiral when entering a magnetic field at an angle.
  • Another participant clarifies that the velocity vector in the Lorentz force equation includes all components, but only the component perpendicular to the magnetic field contributes to the force.
  • A later reply confirms the previous clarification, emphasizing that the parallel component of velocity remains unaffected by the magnetic field.
  • Some participants argue that the correct term for the electron's path is a helix, not a spiral, with one participant affirming this correction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the nature of the velocity components in the Lorentz force equation, but there is disagreement regarding the terminology used to describe the electron's path, with competing views on whether it should be referred to as a spiral or a helix.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the terminology debate regarding the path shape, and assumptions about the magnetic field's orientation and the electron's initial velocity are not fully explored.

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An electron enters a cloud chamber which has a magnetic field B but the path of the electron is not perpendicular to the magnetic field. I understand that the electron path will describe a spiral.

Does the v in the equation F = q(v x B) refer to the component of the electron's velocity which is perpendicular to the B field? Can I assume that an electron's velocity parallel to the B field remains constant and is unaffected by the B field?
 
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The [itex]\vec v[/itex] in that equation is the vector velocity of the electron, including all three (x, y, z) components in general. However, you're correct that the component of [itex]\vec v[/itex] parallel to [itex]\vec B[/itex] does not contribute to [itex]\vec F[/itex]. So if, for example, [itex]\vec B[/itex] is in the z-direction (i.e. [itex]B_x = B_y = 0[/itex]), then it doesn't matter what [itex]v_z[/itex] is, as far as [itex]\vec F[/itex] is concerned:

[tex]F_x = q (v_y B_z - v_z B_y)[/tex]

[tex]F_y = q (v_z B_x - v_x B_z)[/tex]

[tex]F_z = q (v_x B_y - v_y B_x)[/tex]
 
Thank you. That completely answers my question
 
But it is a helix, not a spiral.
 
clem said:
But it is a helix, not a spiral.

Correct.
 

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