How Does Calculus Integrate with Physics Concepts like Electric Fields and Flux?

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This discussion focuses on the integration of calculus concepts within physics, specifically regarding electric fields and flux. The user expresses confusion about when to integrate and how to apply integration to find electric fields for various shapes. Key equations mentioned include the electric field formula E = (1/4πε₀)(Q/r²) and the work-energy theorem Va - Vb = ∫E·dl. The solution provided clarifies that integration is necessary when dealing with varying quantities and emphasizes the importance of boundary conditions in determining constants of integration.

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  • Understanding of basic calculus, including integration techniques.
  • Familiarity with electric field concepts and formulas, particularly E = (1/4πε₀)(Q/r²).
  • Knowledge of the work-energy theorem and its application in physics.
  • Ability to interpret vector calculus, including dot and cross products.
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I am soooo lost. I don't even know if this is the right forum... But where is the bridge between Calculus and Physics? I can Integrate equations, but when it comes to physics, i for one, don't know when to integrate; two, i don't see how you find the constants to remove from the integral; and three, Even given the integral formula for an equation, i still don't know what I am doing. ?? finding the electric field of an object?? i thought Electric field was (1/4pi*epsilon naught)(Q/r^2). So how do i find the E field for different shapes?

another example...

ex. Va-Vb=SE.dl

S-integral
E-Electric Field
dl-small segments of length

I don't know how to use the equation;

Or, electric flux,

Flux=SE . dA

What am i not understanding. Please help


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Flux=SE . dA

Va-Vb=SE.dl



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Hi Josh930! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have an integral: ∫ and a pi: and an epsilon: ε and try using the X2 and X2 tags just above the Reply box :wink:)
Josh930 said:
… when it comes to physics, i for one, don't know when to integrate

Some physical quantities are A times B, or (vector) A dot B or A cross B …

for example, work done = force times distance …

if A and B are constant, then you just multiply, but if one or both is varying, then you have to integrate, eg: ∫A dB or ∫A.dB
i don't see how you find the constants to remove from the integral

Do you mean the constant of integration? You choose it to fit the initial (or boundary) condition: eg, you might choose potential energy to be zero at infinite distance.
finding the electric field of an object?? i thought Electric field was (1/4pi*epsilon naught)(Q/r^2). So how do i find the E field for different shapes?

another example...

ex. Va-Vb=SE.dl

S-integral
E-Electric Field
dl-small segments of length

I don't know how to use the equation;

Or, electric flux,

Flux=SE . dA

To find E at position x for different shapes, basically you integrate ∫∫∫ Q(r - x)d3r/4πε0(r - x)3

Va - Vb = ∫E.dl is the work-energy theorem: the LHS is the increase in PE, and the RHS is the work done … if E varies, then you need to integrate.

And yes, electric flux = ∫ E.dA … what is worrying you about that? :smile:
 

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