How Does Charge in a Capacitor Satisfy the Given Differential Equation?

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The discussion centers on deriving the differential equation governing the charge, Q, in a capacitor within an RC circuit, specifically the equation R(dQ/dt) + Q/C = V. Participants emphasize the importance of applying Kirchhoff's voltage law to establish the relationship between the voltage across the resistor and capacitor. The conversation progresses to finding an expression for Q(t) under constant voltage conditions, leading to the solution Q = VC(1 - e^(-t/RC)). The participants also discuss the implications of changing voltage conditions over time.

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  • #61
Well,

p(t) = \frac{1}{RC}

q(t) = \frac{V_0}{R} sin\omega t

So:

F = \int \frac{1}{RC}dt

F = \frac{t}{RC}

so:

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}x = \int e^{\frac{t}{RC}}\frac{V_0}{R} sin\omega t dt + C

TFM
 
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  • #62
In the last line you want a Q instead of an x.
 
  • #63
Oops...

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}Q = \int e^{\frac{t}{RC}}\frac{V_0}{R} sin\omega t dt + C

So do I integrate the right side now, with what was given in the question?

TFM
 
  • #64
TFM said:
Oops...

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}Q = \int e^{\frac{t}{RC}}\frac{V_0}{R} sin\omega t dt + C

So do I integrate the right side now, with what was given in the question?

TFM

Yes.
 
  • #65
So:

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}Q = \int e^{\frac{t}{RC}}\frac{V_0}{R} sin\omega t dt + C

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}Q = \frac{V_0}{R}\int e^{\frac{t}{RC}} sin\omega t dt + C

Using the replacement formula:

\int e^{t/\alpha} sin\omega t dt = \alpha e^{t/\alpha}\frac{(sin \omega t - \alpha \omega cos \omega t)}{1 + \alpha ^2\omega^2} + Constant

With \alpha = RC

Gives:

e^{t/RC}q = \frac{V_0}{R} \frac{RCe^{t/RC}sin\omega t-RC\omega cos\omega t}{1+(RC)^2\omega^2} + Constant

TFM
 
  • #66
TFM said:
So:

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}Q = \int e^{\frac{t}{RC}}\frac{V_0}{R} sin\omega t dt + C

e^{\frac{t}{RC}}Q = \frac{V_0}{R}\int e^{\frac{t}{RC}} sin\omega t dt + C

Using the replacement formula:

\int e^{t/\alpha} sin\omega t dt = \alpha e^{t/\alpha}\frac{(sin \omega t - \alpha \omega cos \omega t)}{1 + \alpha ^2\omega^2} + Constant

With \alpha = RC

Gives:

e^{t/RC}q = \frac{V_0}{R} \frac{RCe^{t/RC}sin\omega t-RC\omega cos\omega t}{1+(RC)^2\omega^2} + Constant

TFM

Looks good so far (except keep the parenthesis that are in the formula around the (\sin\omega t-\alpha\omega \cos\omega t)).
 
  • #67
So:

e^{t/RC}q = \frac{V_0}{R} \frac{RCe^{t/RC}(sin\omega t-RC\omega cos\omega t)}{1+(RC)^2\omega^2} + Constant

So should I rearrange to get q:

q = \frac{\frac{V_0}{R} \frac{RCe^{t/RC}(sin\omega t-RC\omega cos\omega t)}{1+(RC)^2\omega^2} + Constant}{e^{t/RC}}

??

TFM
 
  • #68
TFM said:
So:

e^{t/RC}q = \frac{V_0}{R} \frac{RCe^{t/RC}(sin\omega t-RC\omega cos\omega t)}{1+(RC)^2\omega^2} + Constant

So should I rearrange to get q:

q = \frac{\frac{V_0}{R} \frac{RCe^{t/RC}(sin\omega t-RC\omega cos\omega t)}{1+(RC)^2\omega^2} + Constant}{e^{t/RC}}

??

TFM

Okay; now I would suggest you write the right hand side as three terms (one with a sine, one with a cosine, and one with the constant). Once you have that, you can determine the constant.
 

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