Engineering How Does Field Current Affect DC Motor Speed?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between field current and the speed of a DC shunt motor. The calculations provided demonstrate that with a field current of 22 A and a back EMF of 248.8 V, the new speed of the motor can be calculated using the formula N2 = N1 * (V - Ia*Ra)/(V - Il*Ra). The final computed speed is 777.5 revolutions per minute (rev/min). The participants confirm the accuracy of the substituted values and the need for a different approach to derive the correct formula for speed changes under varying loads.

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Homework Statement
A 250 V shunt motor has an armature resistance of 0.4 Ω and runs at a speed of 750 rev min –1 when taking a full load current of 25 A.

Estimate the speed of the motor at no load when the armature current is 3 A, assuming that the flux per pole remains constant.
Relevant Equations
Back EMF:
E=V-Ia*Ra

Field Current:
If=Il-Ia

Field Resistance:
Rf=V/If

Change in Speed:
Old speed = (New speed)*(V-If*Ia)/E
Field Current

If=25-3
If=22 A

Field Resistance

Rf=250/22
Rf=11.36363636 Ohms

Back EMF

E=250-3x0.4
E=248.8 V

New Speed

New Speed = (Old speed)*(V-If*Ra))/E
New Speed = (750)*(250-22*0.4)]/248.8
New Speed = 727.0900322 rpm

Where can I find the appropriate formula for the change in speed in this scenario?
I have searched several books.
 
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Field is shunt connected, so If is determined by supply voltage, V.

On no load, we usually consider Ia to be zero.

The shunt motor under load will be slowed down from its unloaded speed.
 
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So, at zero load the shunt motor will speed up.

The numbers substituted in are correct; therefore, the formula is incorrect.

A different approach is required - but which one. I cannot find this formula anywhere.

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After a sleepless night:

Motor speed N = K*(V - IR)/φ

In this case, where flux is constant,

N2/N1 = (V - Ia*Ra)/(V - Il*Ra)

So,

N2 = N1 * (V - Ia*Ra)/(V - Il*Ra)
N2 = 750 * (250 - 3*0.4) / (250 - 25*0.4) = 777.5 rev/min
 
Michael Neo said:
N2 = 750 * (250 - 3*0.4) / (250 - 25*0.4) = 777.5 rev/min
That is correct.
 
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Thank you.
 

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