How does the Energy of a particle stay together?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of energy in particles, particularly how it is retained within particles like electrons and quarks, as opposed to the behavior of massless particles like photons. The scope includes conceptual exploration and clarification of particle physics principles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant speculates on the idea that photons might fluctuate into a sphere to create particles, questioning how energy is retained in particles.
  • Another participant asserts that particles are structureless points in the Standard Model and do not require anything to hold them together.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the difference in behavior of energy in particles versus photons, particularly why energy appears to be stationary in particles.
  • It is noted that energy is not a physical object but a conserved property of particles or systems.
  • Some participants express confusion about the original question, seeking clarification on whether it pertains to the distinction between massless and massive particles.

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There is no consensus on the original question, as some participants express confusion while others attempt to clarify the differences between types of particles. Multiple viewpoints on the nature of particles and energy retention are present.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of energy and particle structure may be implicit, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of these concepts.

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Individuals interested in particle physics, energy conservation, and the distinctions between different types of particles may find this discussion relevant.

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How does the Energy of a particle stay together in a sphere?

Unlike photons, particles---electrons, neutrinos, quarks, etc-- hold onto their energy. But how? I use to speculate, thinking that maybe photons could fluctuate into some sort of endless ring/sphere of infinity creating a particle... but I'm really not sure.
 
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They are not spheres. They are structureless points (in SM). They don't need anything to hold them together.
 
They are not spheres. They are structureless points (in SM). They don't need anything to hold them together.
Well what causes energy to stand still in particles vs move and cover distance as in photons?
 
Energy isn't some physical object that can move around freely. It's a property of particles or systems that is conserved.
 
I don't understand your question.
I understand every word separately, but not the question at whole.
Are you asking about the difference between particles without rest mass (photons) and particles with rest mass?
 
Dmitry67 said:
I don't understand your question.
I understand every word separately, but not the question at whole.
Are you asking about the difference between particles without rest mass (photons) and particles with rest mass?

Yeah that's what I'm asking
 

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