How Far Does the Ice Cube Travel Up the Slope After Release?

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The discussion centers on calculating how far a 50 g ice cube travels up a frictionless 30-degree slope after being released from a compressed spring. The spring, with a constant of 25 N/m, compresses 10 cm, resulting in an initial potential energy of 0.125 J. Participants debate the correct approach, emphasizing the need to equate elastic potential energy with gravitational potential energy at the maximum height. A participant corrects a misunderstanding regarding mass conversion, clarifying that 50 g equals 0.05 kg, not 0.5 kg. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of considering both potential energies in the calculation.
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Homework Statement


A 50 g ice cube can slide without friction up and down a 30 degree slope. The ice cube is pressed against a spring at the bottom of the slope, compressing the spring 10 cm. The spring constant is 25 N/m. When the ice cube is released, what total distance will it travel up the slope before reversing direction?


Homework Equations


F = ma
W = Fdx
Ws = -1/2kx^2

The Attempt at a Solution


Ws = -1/2(25)(.1)^2 = 0.125J
V1 = [2(.125/.5)]^1/2 = .7071 m/s
F = .5(9.8)(sin30) = 2.45N
2.45/.5 = 4.9 m/s^2

(.7071)^2 = 2(4.9)ds
ds = .0510m = 5.1cm

apparently I'm incorrect in my reasoning...
 
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When the spring decompresses there is change in K.E as well as P.E. You have considered only change in K.E. Rather look at the end positions that concern you most - the elastic P.E at maximum compression will be equal to G.P.E when block comes to rest momentarily at highest pt.
 


so what is the equation for P.E. then, cause I thought it was -1/2kx^2...

So... EPIC fail... 5g = .05kg

My answer WAS correct, the decimal place was just off by one...
 
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freak_boy186 said:
apparently I'm incorrect in my reasoning...

I am not sure what you mean by that. But, your solution looks reasonable. There is an easier way to do it though. simply set U_{s}=U_{g} without the kinetic energy.
 


By the way, 50g=0.05kg, not 0.5kg.
 


Dear freak_boy I wasn't referring to elastic potential energy rather it was gravitational potential energy . That is why your answer was off by a small margin - the change of height you ignored was small. Nonetheless it is important that you do not ignore it. That is why benhou's method is better.
 
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