How important is classification of degree (engineers)?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the importance of degree classification for engineers, particularly in relation to career impact and job prospects. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on how degree classifications influence hiring and professional development in the engineering field.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their current average and the desire to achieve a higher classification, questioning the overall importance of degree classification in career success.
  • Another participant suggests that once a graduate secures their first job, the degree classification becomes less significant, although acknowledges that initial job competition can be fierce.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that while GPA reflects theoretical understanding, it does not necessarily correlate with practical application skills, highlighting the value of lab and course projects instead.
  • It is noted that a 2:1 degree is often seen as the standard cut-off for many graduate roles, but employers may not prioritize degree classification after the first job.
  • There is mention of varying criteria for degree classifications across different institutions, particularly in comparison to honors systems in other countries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the importance of degree classification, with some arguing it matters less after initial employment while others emphasize its relevance in early career stages.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that practical training is essential for newly graduated engineers to effectively apply their theoretical knowledge, indicating a potential gap between academic performance and professional competency.

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I'm asking this mainly to engineers but anyone can answer. How important is the classification of degree that you receive and what has it's impact been on your career?

I plan to work in industry and eventually towards chartered/professional status then management positions. For my MEng Electrical + Electronic Engineering degree I have one year left. My average grade for the years which count towards the degree is 66% so far, which gives a good base for achieving a 2.1 degree. My final year will count towards the other 50% of the total so I'll be looking at keeping my average above a minimum of 54% next year to obtain a 2.1 degree.

I feel like I should have tried harder to achieve a 1st class degree (>70%), however from my little experience I have seen that success is not always related to classification of degree achieved. How important is it?
 
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Once you've got your first job, they won't care. Of course, graduate roles are competitive and your first job can impact hugely upon your career.
 
alex282 said:
I'm asking this mainly to engineers but anyone can answer. How important is the classification of degree that you receive and what has it's impact been on your career?

I plan to work in industry and eventually towards chartered/professional status then management positions. For my MEng Electrical + Electronic Engineering degree I have one year left. My average grade for the years which count towards the degree is 66% so far, which gives a good base for achieving a 2.1 degree. My final year will count towards the other 50% of the total so I'll be looking at keeping my average above a minimum of 54% next year to obtain a 2.1 degree.

I feel like I should have tried harder to achieve a 1st class degree (>70%), however from my little experience I have seen that success is not always related to classification of degree achieved. How important is it?
It's not clear which institutions grant such classed degrees.

In the US and other countries, you can graduate with certain honors (for example, cum laude or magna cum laude), but the criteria which are used to award such honors vary by institution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_honors

Like many, if not most, professions, there is a certain period of practical training required before the freshly-minted graduate acquires all the necessary skills, judgement, and experience to practice a profession effectively.
 
In my career, I have suffered many idiots who had nice looking grade point averages in school. At best, a GPA shows how well you understand the theory. It says virtually nothing about how well you might apply that theory.

In the working world, I care that someone graduated with an engineering degree. It shows commitment. However, I place a lot weight on lab and course projects that a candidate did in school. I care about what you want to do with your education, not how well someone thinks you understand it.
 
alex282 said:
I'm asking this mainly to engineers but anyone can answer. How important is the classification of degree that you receive and what has it's impact been on your career?

I plan to work in industry and eventually towards chartered/professional status then management positions. For my MEng Electrical + Electronic Engineering degree I have one year left. My average grade for the years which count towards the degree is 66% so far, which gives a good base for achieving a 2.1 degree. My final year will count towards the other 50% of the total so I'll be looking at keeping my average above a minimum of 54% next year to obtain a 2.1 degree.

I feel like I should have tried harder to achieve a 1st class degree (>70%), however from my little experience I have seen that success is not always related to classification of degree achieved. How important is it?

A 2:1 is decent. It's the standard cut-off level for most graduate jobs. But after your first job, "they", usually meaning employers, aren't particularly interested in your degree classification.
 

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