How important is FE exam, really?

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The discussion revolves around the importance of the Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) exam for engineering students, particularly in relation to job prospects and licensure. Participants explore its relevance for computer engineers, the differences between FE exams, and the implications of not taking the exam.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that while the FE exam can be beneficial for obtaining a Professional Engineer (PE) license, it is not strictly necessary for securing most engineering jobs, especially in fields like computer engineering.
  • Others argue that having the FE opens up more job opportunities and is a step towards obtaining a PE license, which is required for certain positions, particularly in private consulting.
  • There is mention of the requirement to work under a licensed PE for a certain period before taking the PE exam, with varying rules depending on the state.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the necessity of the FE exam, noting that in their experience, few engineers in their industry hold a PE license.
  • Questions arise regarding the differences between the two FE exams (FE I and FE II), but no clear answers are provided.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential disadvantages of not taking the FE exam, particularly regarding future job opportunities and the ability to take the PE exam later.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the importance of the FE exam, with multiple competing views on its necessity and relevance to different engineering fields. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall value of the FE exam.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the importance of the FE exam may vary significantly based on individual career goals, industry standards, and state-specific licensure requirements. There are also uncertainties regarding the specific requirements for taking the PE exam after passing the FE.

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Our school requires the students to take FE exam before you graduate. I mean, of course, it would be helpful if you become a licensed engineer, but our school puts it as if you cannot get a job without passing the FE exam, which probably isn't true.

Having that said,

1)How important is FE exam? How would it help getting me a job (I am a computer engineer)?

2)I heard there are two FE exams (FE I, FE II). What are the differences?

3)What are the disadvantages of not taking FE?
 
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If one has the opportunity to take the FE, then do so. As one gets into a professional career, it becomes more difficult to find time to do it.

Uniformity among state licensure laws is a goal that most engineering societies have been working toward for many years. A model law has been developed and has been used as a guide for almost 40 years. Currently, the majority of states require that a candidate pass an eight-hour Fundamentals of Engineering written exam (the FE exam), and the eight-hour Principles and Practice of Engineering exam in the applicant's discipline.
Many jobs in engineering require a PE, and the FE is the first step.

One can get a job without an FE, but having it opens up more opportunities.

My department (Nuc E) encouraged students to do the PE during grad school.
 
l46kok said:
Our school requires the students to take FE exam before you graduate. I mean, of course, it would be helpful if you become a licensed engineer, but our school puts it as if you cannot get a job without passing the FE exam, which probably isn't true.

That certainly is not true. In fact, for computer engineers, a job that requires a PE license is incredibly rare.

I took the FE, but I don't think I'll ever go for my PE because you need to work under someone who has a PE for about three years before you can take the next PE test! I've never met anyone in industry (I'm an EE) that has their PE, so I would actively have to search every company I work at to find someone with a PE and try to work under them.

However, I should mention that grad school counts as experience towards the PE. I think an MS was one or two years out of three, but I don't remember for sure.

If you want to go into private consulting, you need to have your PE. I don't know your career goals, but consider that. Also, I believe that your school makes all engineers take the FE exam because it looks good for them if they have a high passing rate.
 
You have to work under someone who is a PE to qualify? I thought it was you just had to work for 2-3 years then you could take it, assuming you pass the FE>
 
user101 said:
You have to work under someone who is a PE to qualify? I thought it was you just had to work for 2-3 years then you could take it, assuming you pass the FE>

It varies from state to state. I know that in Texas you just need 4 years experience and recommendations from 3 currently licensed PEs.
 
user101 said:
You have to work under someone who is a PE to qualify? I thought it was you just had to work for 2-3 years then you could take it, assuming you pass the FE>


It varies by state.
 
l46kok said:
1)How important is FE exam? How would it help getting me a job (I am a computer engineer)?

2)I heard there are two FE exams (FE I, FE II). What are the differences?

3)What are the disadvantages of not taking FE?

In my experience (I am the most senior engineer in my department):
1) If you get the chance take it. If you don't, it probably doesn't matter for most engineering jobs. I work with engineers at GE, Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce and Honeywell (jet engine manufacturers) and I don't think I know more than 2-3 licensed PEs. Our industry doesn't care. I didn't take it but I have never had much of the content on the test (BS is in Math)

2) ?

3) Some jobs require a PE license and you need the FE to buy an admission ticket to the test. If you don't take it now, you won't have time to study those parts you don't use so that you can pass the FE test.
 
Let me get this straight... so FE by itself is completely useless, and if you want to get something out of the test you take, you should take PE as well?
 
l46kok said:
Let me get this straight... so FE by itself is completely useless, and if you want to get something out of the test you take, you should take PE as well?

Well, it's also a pre-req for the Patent Bar Exam. :redface:
 

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