How Is Angular Speed Calculated in a Dual Disk System with a Falling Mass?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular speed of a dual disk system with a falling mass. A block of mass 4 kg is suspended from a rope wrapped around two disks with different radii, and the problem involves applying the work-energy theorem. The gravitational potential energy of the block is converted into the rotational kinetic energy of the disks. The initial calculations suggest an angular speed of 11.45 rad/s, but this is deemed incorrect as the block also gains kinetic energy while falling. The correct approach requires accounting for the energy transformations accurately.
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Homework Statement



A block of mass m = 4 kg hangs from a rope that is wrapped around a disk of mass m and radius R1 = 27 cm. This disk is glued onto another disk of again the same mass m and radius R2 = 66 cm. The two disks rotate on a fixed axle without friction. If the block is released at a height 1.7 m above the ground, what is the angular speed of the two disk system just before the block hits the ground. Answer in units of rad/s

Homework Equations



Ugrav = mgh

KErot = 1/2 Iω2

Idisk = 1/2mr2

The Attempt at a Solution



Using the work-energy theorem, the work done on the disks by the block is equal to the final kinetic energy of the block, which is equal to the initial gravitational potential energy of the Earth on the block:

ΔKblock = ΔUgrav, block = ΔKrot, disks

Knowing that the final potential energy of the system is approaching zero;

ΔUgrav, block = mgh

So far we have:

mgh = ΔKrot, disks

Knowing also that the initial rotational kinetic energy of the disks is zero, and with equation I provided, we know that

ΔKrot, disks = (1/2)Iω2

Where:

I = (1/2)mr12 + (1/2)mr22

The final equation received would be:

mgh = (1/2)((1/2)mr12 + (1/2)mr222

cancelling for m:

gh = (1/2)((1/2)r12 + (1/2)r222

continuing the move terms over to solve for omega:

4gh = (r12 + r222

4 * (9.8) * (1.7) = [(.27)2 + (.66)2] * ω2

Solving for ω:

131.05 = ω^2
ω = 11.45

This is incorrect though :(
 
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The block gains some KE as it falls.
 
NascentOxygen said:
The block gains some KE as it falls.

Lamebert said:
Using the work-energy theorem, the work done on the disks by the block is equal to the final kinetic energy of the block, which is equal to the initial gravitational potential energy of the Earth on the block:

ΔKblock = ΔUgrav, block = ΔKrot, disks

Yep.
 
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The block loses PE. The disks and the block gain KE.
 
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