How Is Converted Electrical Energy Stored and Utilized?

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The discussion centers around the storage and utilization of converted electrical energy, particularly in the context of energy conversion technologies such as solar and thermal systems. Participants explore various methods of energy storage and their applications, seeking to understand the circuitry involved and the practical implications of these technologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the use of supercapacitors for storing converted electrical energy and how it is applied for general use.
  • Another participant prompts for information on prior research conducted by the original poster, indicating a collaborative approach to the inquiry.
  • A welcome message introduces the concept of Maximum Power Point Tracking as a critical aspect of power conversion in solar and wind energy systems.
  • Participants discuss various methods of storing electric energy, including pumped hydro, thermal storage, batteries, capacitors, and flywheels, highlighting the advantages and limitations of each method.
  • One participant notes that pumped hydro is currently the only large-scale energy storage method proven to be economically viable, while expressing optimism about the future of utility-scale battery storage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the various methods of energy storage discussed, but there is no consensus on the best approach or the future viability of these technologies. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple viewpoints presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific geographical conditions for pumped hydro storage, the evolving nature of battery technology, and the economic factors influencing the adoption of various storage methods.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in energy conversion technologies, electrical engineering, renewable energy systems, and energy storage solutions.

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looking for how energy conversion stores and applies electric current
Hello, I am interested in the circuitry of energy conversion, such as solar, thermal, etc. How does the converted electrical energy get stored, for example, do they use supercapacitors? How does it then get applied for general use? Do you have any documentation or circuit diagrams for this?
 
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What research have you done so far? What have you found out?
 
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Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Are you familiar with Maximum Power Point Tracking in power conversion like solar and wind? That's an important piece of the puzzle. For more information on your general questions, I'll page @anorlunda -- he has written several Insights Blogs about the power grid and power conversion.
 
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Summary: looking for how energy conversion stores and applies electric current

How does the converted electrical energy get stored
There are several ways to store electric energy.
  1. Pumped hydro. Use electric power to pump water to a reservoir on a mountain top. Later let the water run down generating electricity. This is the one and only storage method proven to work on a huge scale. But it can only be used in locations able to hold a large reservoir on a mountain top.
  2. Thermal. Your home hot water heater can use electricity to heat the water late at night for use later in the day when people are up. Ditto for house warming/cooling to store for a couple of hours.
    Geothermal systems can store warm/cold water for heating/cooling purposes underground. Some of them store so much that they can be used seasonally. But the number of installations are very small, so I guess the reason must be cost.
  3. Batteries. Batteries are great, but so far they are too big, too expensive, or too short-lived for many applicaitions. But that is changing rapidly. Utility scale batteries are a tiny fraction of the grid today, but growing rapidly. Devices such as the Tesla Power Wall are very attractive for houses with solar power.
  4. Capacitors store energy very well, for a few milliseconds, but for periods of hours or days, they are very far from being competitive to 1) 2) or 3)
  5. Flywheels have been tried, without much success.
So, there is great interest in electric energy storage. The future looks promising, but the status today is that pumped hydro is the only really large scale energy storage system proven to be economically attractive. Wide spread utility battery storage will come hopefully within 5-10 years.
 
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