Converting heat into electrical energy

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The discussion revolves around the concept of converting thermal energy into electrical energy, specifically in the context of a science project involving a device intended to run a small engine in a cooking pan. Participants explore the feasibility of this idea, the principles behind thermoelectric generation, and potential methods to enhance electricity production.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their understanding of converting thermal energy to electrical energy and seeks advice on improving the electricity output of their proposed device.
  • Another participant suggests that while the idea is feasible, it may be more complex than anticipated and recommends exploring existing technologies like self-stirring pots and thermoelectric generators.
  • A different participant notes that traditional power stations convert heat into electricity but require a temperature gradient, emphasizing the importance of having a hot and cold reservoir.
  • Participants mention thermoelectrics and Peltier coolers as smaller-scale alternatives for generating electricity from heat, with one providing a link to a commercially available Peltier cooler.
  • Concerns are raised about the limited power output of thermopiles, with an example given of a thermopile generator that produces just enough power for specific applications.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that converting heat to electricity is possible but express differing views on the practicality and efficiency of the proposed methods. There is no consensus on the best approach or the feasibility of the original idea.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for a temperature gradient in thermoelectric systems and the limitations of thermopiles in terms of power output. There are also references to various technologies and resources that may aid in understanding the topic further.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in thermoelectric generation, DIY science projects, and the practical applications of converting heat to electrical energy may find this discussion beneficial.

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Greetings,

I have a science project to make and i have an idea but i am not so sure about it, the idea is to convert thermal energy into electrical energy which will run a small engine.

I want to put that device in a cooking pan and that heat will be converted into electrical energy which will run a small engine that will mix the liquids in the cooking pan. I did some research about converting thermal energy into electrical energy and i did understand the basics "maybe", since there are many words i didn't understand, i am still in grade 11.

This is a drawing of what i understood so far :-

https://physicsforums-bernhardtmediall.netdna-ssl.com/data/attachments/70/70927-c5b66fd0d41a6502db5ef1ce5ebae3f2.jpg

well, i don't know if that sketch could produce electricity, but if it does, how can i increase the amount of the electricity that this converter produce, is it by increasing the number of copper/iron wires?, and/or is it by increasing the heat?

the thing i have read is that if we connected the iron wire into different tides of a battery one will heat up and one will be cold, i don't know why, but if that was true, should i heat one iron wire only? i know that the heat would transfer and try to be equal between copper/iron wires.

my final question is, is this converter gives a fair amount of electricity, or should i give up or use another kind of converter?.

Thanks.
 

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric#Thermoelectric_generators. Is one place to start.

It can be done and it has been done, but it is probably much more difficult than you imagine. I suspect that you have a better chance of making a self stirring pot using the water circulating currents and some kind of a propeller.I went to youtube.com and did searches for "self stirring pot", "thermoelectric generator" and "thermoelectric stirrer". All those searches returned dozens of hits.

Good luck.
 
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thank you so much, actually i found youtube is more friendly and i have learned quite new things through it, at least that was faster than google, thank you so much for your reply :)
 
heat into electricity is what all coal-fired and nuclear-powered power stations do.
Functionally though, they still require a temperature Gradient. a difference between somthing Hot and Cold. I.e. a hot thing and a cold resivoir.

thermoelectrics and peltier coolers do the same thing but are solid state and much smaller scale.
you can buy a peltier cooler for $4 on amazon.
ttp://amzn.com/B002UQQ3Q2
 

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