How is energy conserved by magnet lifting a metallic object

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conservation of energy in a closed system involving a strong permanent magnet and a metallic object. Participants explore how energy is transferred and transformed as the magnet interacts with the object, considering kinetic and potential energy changes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where a magnet is lowered towards a metallic object, suggesting that the object gains kinetic and potential energy as it is attracted to the magnet.
  • The same participant posits that the kinetic energy is dissipated as heat within the magnet when the object comes to rest upon contact.
  • Another participant proposes that the energy stored in the magnetic field decreases, indicating that this reduction in energy corresponds to the work done on the object, which includes both its kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy increases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express different aspects of energy conservation in this scenario, but there is no explicit consensus on the complete understanding of the energy transformations involved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve certain assumptions about energy dissipation mechanisms or the specific definitions of energy forms involved in the interaction.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring concepts of energy conservation, magnetic interactions, and the dynamics of closed systems in physics.

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Assume a strong permanent magnet is suspended by a string over a metallic object. The magnet is slowly lowered until the object is attracted to the magnet. For this to occur the object acquired both kinetic and potential energy. Since the object comes to rest upon hitting the magnet, I assume the kinetic energy is dissipated as heat within the magnet. But considering only the closed system of the magnet and the object, the end result is a magnet that has acquired heat energy and an object that has acquired potential energy. Please explain how energy is conserved in this closed system.

Thanks for helping resolve this for a group of us with too much time on our hands.
 
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The energy stored in the magnetic field is reduced. The reduction in the field's energy is equal to the work done on the object, both the work done increasing its KE and also the work done increasing its gravitational PE.
 
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Thank you for answering our question. Bunch of old guys to far removed from Physics 101. We apologize if this was too similar to other posts.
 
No problem! Let us know if you have any follow up questions.
 

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