How is it that power can vary if the current stays constant?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between current and power in electrical circuits, specifically addressing how power can vary while maintaining a constant current. Participants explore the implications of different voltage levels and resistances on power consumption, drawing from basic electrical principles.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between current and power, noting that power increases with voltage even when current remains constant.
  • Another participant explains that power is defined as the product of voltage and current, suggesting that higher voltage requires more energy to push the same current through a higher resistance.
  • A question is raised regarding the resistance values for the two different setups to apply the power formula.
  • A later reply reiterates the idea that varying resistances can affect power drawn from a constant voltage supply, while also noting that constant current supplies are less common.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the underlying logic of power variation with constant current, as different perspectives on resistance and energy requirements are presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the deeper understanding of these relationships.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference basic electrical formulas and concepts, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the specific conditions of the circuits discussed, such as the exact resistance values and the nature of the power supply.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals learning about basic circuit design, electrical engineering principles, or those seeking clarification on the relationship between current, voltage, and power in electrical systems.

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Hello everyone,

I'm trying to teach myself basic circuit design from an EE textbook, but I'm starting to think myself in circles here. I have no trouble with the basic algebra, but the logic behind the formulas is giving me trouble.

The thing I'm most confused about right now is the relation of current to power:

1) P=I^2R
2) and P = VI

From these, it's clear that if the current stays constant and the voltage increases, power will increase proportionally... but I just can't wrap my head around why that's so.

Let's say we have a 12V battery connected to a resistor such that it draws 1A. We have another setup that uses a 24V battery and a stronger resistor, such that the current is similarly 1A. The circuit draws the same current but uses double the power. How can that be?

Can someone please help me understand what's going on here?
 
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Power is measured in watts, or Joules/second
P=V*I = volts*amperes = (Joules/Coulomb)*(Coloumb/sec) = Joules/Second = power

If you have a situation where a load draws the same amount of current as another load but at a different voltage, consider that more energy is required to "push" current through the higher resistance load - because of its higher resistance.

The higher resistance requires more energy to accept the same amount of amperes as a lower resistance.
 
What would the "R" be for the two different cases? The calculate formula #1.
 
FOIWATER said:
Power is measured in watts, or Joules/second
P=V*I = volts*amperes = (Joules/Coulomb)*(Coloumb/sec) = Joules/Second = power

If you have a situation where a load draws the same amount of current as another load but at a different voltage, consider that more energy is required to "push" current through the higher resistance load - because of its higher resistance.

The higher resistance requires more energy to accept the same amount of amperes as a lower resistance.

That's an interesting way to look at it. Certainly makes a lot more sense than I was making in my own head.

Thank you
 
There is no surprise that different resistances can be used to vary the power drawn from a constant Voltage supply (normal electrical supply - battery or alternator). The same thing will apply for a constant Current supply but such generators are relatively rare.
 

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