How Is the Particle Density Operator Defined?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the definition and interpretation of the particle density operator in quantum mechanics, particularly its relationship with the current density operator and the use of the delta function in this context. Participants explore theoretical aspects and mathematical formulations related to these operators.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the definition of the particle density operator Ï(r) and its relation to the current density operator, questioning the use of the delta function in the formulation.
  • Another participant points out that the expectation value of the operator does not directly correspond to the delta function, suggesting a misunderstanding in the identification process.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the general expression for the expectation of an operator and argues that substituting the delta function leads to the correct expression for the expectation of the particle density operator.
  • One participant counters that the expression involving the wavefunction does not equate to the delta function as previously suggested, indicating a distinction between average values and elements of a density matrix.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the identification of the particle density operator with the delta function, with some supporting the identification and others challenging it. The discussion remains unresolved as different interpretations and mathematical formulations are presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the definitions and relationships between the operators, as well as the mathematical steps involved in deriving the expressions. The scope of the discussion is confined to theoretical interpretations without reaching a consensus.

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There is something I do not understand. One way to define the current density operator is through the particle density operator Ï(r). From the fundamental interpretation of the wavefunction we have:

Ï(r)= lψ(r)l2

But my book takes this a step further by rewriting the equality above:

lψ(r)l2 = ∫dr' ψ*(r')δ(r-r')ψ(r')

And thus identifies the particle density operator as the delta function above. How does this make sense in any way?
 
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We have <r|Ï|r> = ∫dr' ψ*(r')δ(r-r')ψ(r')
where do you see a possible identification?
|ψ(r)|² is found on the diagonal of rho not on delta.
 
In general, we write expectation of operator A as ##\displaystyle \langle \psi |A|\psi \rangle = \int \psi^*(r') A \psi(r') dr'##. Substituting ##A = \delta(r-r')## gives you the correct expression for expectation of ##\rho(r)##. So what's the problem?
 
Yes but
<r|ψ><ψ|r'> = <r|Ï|r'> is not identified to δ(r-r') like aaa202 said.
it is not here an average value but an element of a density matrix.
 

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