How is the value of Pi calculated with extreme accuracy?

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The calculation of Pi to extreme accuracy involves mathematical series that converge to its value, such as the alternating series mentioned. While measuring Pi through circumference and diameter is limited by measurement precision, advanced algorithms allow for its computation to trillions of decimal places. The reference value of Pi is established through these precise calculations, although the reasoning behind certain series yielding Pi may not be immediately clear. The pursuit of calculating Pi to such high precision is often more about demonstrating computational power than practical necessity. Overall, the discussion highlights both the mathematical complexity and the motivations behind extreme calculations of Pi.
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When we say we know the value of Pi upto - say 1 billion position accuracy -, how exactly they calculate it? Is it as simple as Circumference / diameter and the whole accuracy of the value of Pi is completely dependent on the accuracy to measure circumference and diameter?
 
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I have no idea why anyone would calculate pi to that many places (or to a trillion decimal places, as has been done) since there is no instrument that could make measurements that precise.

Pi calculated to 39 decimal places is enough precision to determine the circumference of the observable universe to a precision equal to the radius of a hydrogen atom - provided of course that you could measure the diameter of the observable universe with a margin of error less than the radius of a hydrogen atom.
 
Found from wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi

\pi = 4 \sum^\infty_{k=0}\frac{(-1)^k}{2k+1}

Have fun.
 
Bob, the reason for doing so is to show off how fast your computer is
 
gb7nash said:
Found from wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi

\pi = 4 \sum^\infty_{k=0}\frac{(-1)^k}{2k+1}

Have fun.

mathman said:
This converges quite slowly. There are better ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_π

These are estimations. My question is when they say the value of Pi is accurate to so and so number of digits with respect to the reference value of Pi, how did they come up with the reference value of Pi.
 
jobyts said:
These are estimations. My question is when they say the value of Pi is accurate to so and so number of digits with respect to the reference value of Pi, how did they come up with the reference value of Pi.

They're estimates of pi that are accurate to within 10-big number. For example, the infinite series converges exactly to pi, and because it's alternating you can get a bound on the error if you truncate it at only finitely many terms
 
Office_Shredder said:
They're estimates of pi that are accurate to within 10-big number. For example, the infinite series converges exactly to pi, and because it's alternating you can get a bound on the error if you truncate it at only finitely many terms

Ah, ok...got it. Thanks all.

The mentioned wikipage also states "While that series is easy to write and calculate, it is not immediately obvious why it yields π.".
Does that mean there no proof for the Pi series equation?
 
Office_Shredder said:
Bob, the reason for doing so is to show off how fast your computer is

I probably shouldn't make fun of calculating pi to an enormous number of digits, considering I once figured out that I could count up to 1,099,511,627,775 using my fingers and toes.

Seemed kind of impressive until I figured out a rough estimate of how long it would take to count that high. Then I decided I'd save that task until someone invented immortality.
 
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jobyts said:
Ah, ok...got it. Thanks all.
The mentioned wikipage also states "While that series is easy to write and calculate, it is not immediately obvious why it yields π.".
Does that mean there no proof for the Pi series equation?

No, it means that some proofs are not immediately obvious.

In my own case, hardly any proofs are immediately obvious.
 
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BobG said:
I probably shouldn't make fun of calculating pi to an enormous number of digits, considering I once figured out that I could count up to 1,099,511,627,775 using my fingers and toes.
Speaking of an enormous number of digits, it would appear that you have 40 fingers and toes, twice the usual number of the average Homo Sapiens.
 
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brocks said:
In my own case, hardly any proofs are immediately obvious.
:smile: :smile:
 

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