How many batteries can run in series

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The discussion centers around the configuration of batteries in series and parallel, specifically in the context of upgrading a battery bank for off-grid living. Participants explore the implications of connecting batteries in series to increase voltage and the limitations and risks associated with connecting batteries in parallel.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the maximum number of batteries that can be connected in series to increase watt hours.
  • Another participant corrects the initial misunderstanding regarding the configuration needed to achieve a 24V system, stating that batteries must be connected in series rather than parallel.
  • It is suggested that there is no practical limit to the number of batteries that can be connected in series, as the output voltage will continue to rise.
  • A participant shares their experience of using 450 large glass 1.2-volt lead-acid battery cells connected in series in an Uninterruptable Power System.
  • Concerns are raised about connecting batteries in parallel, highlighting the risks of differences in battery characteristics leading to dangerous current flows, potential fires, and explosions.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of using identical batteries in both series and parallel configurations to minimize risks, and suggests monitoring battery voltages to prevent damage.
  • A resource is mentioned that may provide additional helpful information regarding battery configurations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the limitations of connecting batteries in series and parallel. While some assert that there is no practical limit to series connections, others caution against the risks associated with parallel connections, indicating a lack of consensus on best practices.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of battery characteristics, such as state of charge and manufacturing consistency, in determining safe configurations. There are unresolved concerns regarding the safe discharge levels and monitoring requirements for both series and parallel connections.

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I live off the grid and am looking to upgrade my battery bank. I now have 12 6v batteries. 4 are ran in parallel to make a 24v system. The rest are run in series to increase watt hours. is there a maximum amount of batteries I can run in a series?
 
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Jlwaterman said:
I live off the grid and am looking to upgrade my battery bank. I now have 12 6v batteries. 4 are ran in parallel to make a 24v system. The rest are run in series to increase watt hours. is there a maximum amount of batteries I can run in a series?

You got it mixed, you must be running 4 in series to get 24V, not in parallel.
 
Forgive me for the mix up. I am still trying figure out how many batteries I can hook up
 
If you add batteries in series there is not a practical limit. Your output voltage just continues to rise. I have used 450 large glass 1.2 volt lead-acid battery cells connected in series in an Uninterruptable Power System.

When you begin to put batteries in parallel you encounter the problem of differences in the batteries causing unwanted current/power flows between the cells themselves. This can become catastrophic and dangerous with possible fire, explosions, and injuries. Be sure to consult with qualified and certified engineers if you are doing home-made projects.
 
Jlwaterman said:
Forgive me for the mix up. I am still trying figure out how many batteries I can hook up
Without special monitoring, no more than 2 in parallel (i.e., side by side), and then only if they are both new and of identical manufacture and part number, and in similar state of charge. When you discharge them, only partially discharge, don't discharge until the lights go dim!

For cells in series, no more than 3 or 4, and then only if they are of identical manufacture and part number, and in similar state of charge. When you discharge a series connection of non-identical cells, the weakest cell is placed in mortal danger of having its polarity reversed. To minimize this risk, take care not to discharge anywhere near the rated AHr capacity of a series string. It would be safest to electronically monitor the terminal voltage of each 6V battery and trip the load relay if any battery voltage falls below that safe level. (I would expect some chemistrys to be more tolerant of polarity reversal than others, but I wouldn't rely on this.)
 
Bobbywhy said:
If you add batteries in series there is not a practical limit. Your output voltage just continues to rise. I have used 450 large glass 1.2 volt lead-acid battery cells connected in series in an Uninterruptable Power System.

When you begin to put batteries in parallel you encounter the problem of differences in the batteries causing unwanted current/power flows between the cells themselves. This can become catastrophic and dangerous with possible fire, explosions, and injuries. Be sure to consult with qualified and certified engineers if you are doing home-made projects.

This may be informative. Don't do this at home...

 
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