lisab
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jim mcnamara said:Lisa -
Apache is in the Athapascan group of Languages: Tlingit, Navajo. I can stumble through some Navajo and understand some Jicarilla Apache. Never heard spoken Chiricahua, but I was told they call the language and themselves: "Ndeh". Navajos use "Dine", Tlingit use "Tinne" - at least that's how us Bilagaanas spell it.
Which Apache group was your grandmother? The answer is: where was she born - White River, Dulce, where?
Dayton, Ohio won't work for an answer...
This cross-liguistic feat is because these languages all apparently "broke off" from a common ancestor language recently. So there are lots of similarities between Apache dialects and Navajo. Not because I have any linguistic skills. Whatsoever. When I was failing to learn Navajo, Irvy Goosen used to help me.
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My wife ran a sort of Trading Post/Store. Every time I went there the Navajo speakers who knew me tried to get me to speak Navajo. They usually ended up convulsed with laughter. Seems I have a career waiting: A Navlish-speaker-comedian.
Anyway, Goosen explained that South Western Athapascan speakers shared a really high number of cognates and nearly identical language structures. Told me, he went North, and could converse with Tlingit speakers fairly well, too.
A large percentage Navajo/Apache "nouns" amount to sentences. Kind of like phrases in English - an absolute literal translation of "duck" would be "it floats on the water". Snake == "it slithers"; mice == "they scrabble at night".
So when you say something in English and it takes xxxx long, if you translate to Apache it becomes xxxxxxxxx long.
I'm not sure but I think my great-grandma was born in or near Fort Sill. Is your wife Apache or Navajo?
I was told Apaches call themselves N'De (or something like that) which translates to something like, "Us Folk"