How Much Does the Spring Shorten When the Partridge is Removed?

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The problem involves a partridge suspended from a spring and explores the dynamics of simple harmonic motion (SHM) after the partridge is removed. Participants discuss the spring constant and its relationship to the period of oscillation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the period of oscillation, mass, and the spring constant. There are attempts to derive the spring constant using formulas related to SHM.

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Some participants have successfully calculated the spring constant and are exploring how to apply it to find the spring's shortening. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the application of formulas, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note that the problem may involve assumptions about the spring's behavior and the parameters provided, such as the mass of the partridge and the period of oscillation. There is uncertainty about the correct application of the equations involved.

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A partridge of mass 5.05 kg is suspended from a pear tree by an ideal spring of negligible mass. When the partridge is pulled down 0.100 m below its equilibrium position and released, it vibrates with a period of 4.15 s.

i figured out the first three parts, but part four has me stuck.

What is its speed as it passes through the equilibrium position?
.151m/s
What is its acceleration when it is 0.050 m above the equilibrium position?
-0.115 m/s^2
When it is moving upward, how much time is required for it to move from a point 0.050 m below its equilibrium position to a point 0.050 m above it?
0.692s
The motion of the partridge is stopped, and then it is removed from the spring. How much does the spring shorten?
I have no idea...


ive been stumped on this for a while now. i honestly have no idea how to even approach this part. can anybody help me out??
 
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One equation: Fg=kx, where Fg is the weight of the pear on the spring

Edit: on second thought, I'm not sure if they give you k. I forgot some SHM equations, but you can probably derive that from the previous eqs (potential energy, angular frequency). I got to brush up on that stuff.
 
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aozer said:
ive been stumped on this for a while now. i honestly have no idea how to even approach this part. can anybody help me out??
Find the spring constant. Hint: How are the period, mass, and k related?
 
yea, i already found k to be .4539. i used omega=(2pi)/4.15 and then set k=omega^2/m to get it.

i tried using F=kx but it didnt work.

mg/k=x but i got 109.14 and it said it is wrong. doesn't that solve for the equilibrium position?
 
aozer said:
i used omega=(2pi)/4.15
OK.
and then set k=omega^2/m to get it.
Not OK.
 
oh wait, k=omega^2*m haha

ok, i got that, but i still don't know what to do.

i tried mg/k=x but it still comes up with the wrong answer.

edit:nvm i got the answer...
 

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