How Much Horsepower is Needed for Skiers on a Rope Tow?

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To determine the horsepower needed for a rope tow for skiers, calculations must account for both friction and the gravitational force due to the incline. A skier's kinetic friction force is calculated to be approximately 86N, leading to an initial power requirement of 130W for one skier. However, this does not include the additional power needed to lift the skiers against gravity while ascending the hill. The correct formula incorporates both friction and gravitational work, resulting in a total power requirement of 5.3HP for 30 skiers. Properly accounting for the incline's height is crucial for an accurate horsepower calculation.
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Homework Statement



Physics and Skiers and Rope and Hills?
A 80 kg skier grips a moving rope that is powered by an engine and is pulled at constant speed to the top of a 24 degrees hill. The skier is pulled a distance x= 200m along the incline and it takes 2.2 min to reach the top of the hill.

If the coefficient of kinetic friction between the snow and skis is Uk = 0.12, what horsepower engine is required if 30 such skiers (max) are on the rope at one time?


Homework Equations



F=umgcos(theta)
P=F(change in x)/t
HP=746?


The Attempt at a Solution



Since the tow rope moves at constant speed, the tension in the rope must equal the force of kinetic friction, which is:

f = μmgcosθ
= 0.12(80kg)(9.8m/s²)cos24°
= 86N (rounded)

Power is work over time and work is force times distance, so:

P = FΔx / t
= 86N(200m) / 132s
= 130 W

In horsepower:

130W = 130W(1.00HP / 746W)
= 0.175HP

For 30 skiers then:

30 x 0.175HP = 5.3HP (rounded)

I got the wrong answer when I put this in. Everything seems in order. Did I miss something? I've double checked my work so its not a calculator error. Any help=thanks!
 
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This would be the case if the skiers were on a horizontal surface. You did not include the power required to raise up to a certain height that you can calculate from the slope and the distance along the incline, i.e. Δ(mgh)/Δt.
 
kuruman said:
This would be the case if the skiers were on a horizontal surface. You did not include the power required to raise up to a certain height that you can calculate from the slope and the distance along the incline, i.e. Δ(mgh)/Δt.

So insert that when trying to figure out power?

P = FΔx / t + Δ(mgh)/Δt??
or P=Δ(mgh)/Δt??
 
Insert. The engine works against both friction and gravity.
 
kuruman said:
Insert. The engine works against both friction and gravity.

So...=( 86N(200m) / 132s) + (80*9.8*200cos(24)/132)??
 
Draw yourself a right triangle of hypotenuse 200 m making an angle of 28o with respect to the horizontal. What is the vertical side?
 
kuruman said:
Draw yourself a right triangle of hypotenuse 200 m making an angle of 28o with respect to the horizontal. What is the vertical side?

It's sin24*200=h

Boom got it
 
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