How Much Power to Generate 400,000 Gauss EMF?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the hypothetical question of how much power is required to generate a 400,000 Gauss magnetic field, exploring the relationship between magnetic field strength, current, voltage, and energy storage in electromagnets.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the power needed to generate a 400,000 Gauss magnetic field.
  • Another participant provides a link to a resource for calculating magnetic fields in Tesla and notes that 400,000 Gauss is equivalent to 40 Tesla.
  • A participant asks about obtaining a volt reading to convert to watts, indicating a desire to understand the power requirements in electrical terms.
  • In response, a participant explains that a voltage is not necessary to maintain a magnetic field once established, particularly in superconducting magnets, but mentions that energy requirements depend on the properties of the magnet used.
  • Another participant counters that non-superconducting coils do require voltage to maintain current, referencing Ohm's Law to explain the relationship between voltage, resistance, and current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of voltage for maintaining a magnetic field, with some asserting that it is not needed in superconducting systems while others argue that it is required for non-superconducting coils. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of power requirements for different types of magnets.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of power requirements for generating strong magnetic fields, with assumptions about the type of magnet (superconducting vs. non-superconducting) influencing the arguments presented. There is also a lack of consensus on how to quantify power in this context.

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Hello all, first time post here. I was curious, hypothetically, how much juice would you need to generate a 400,000 Gauss magnetic field?
 
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Awesome thanks for the link. However, is there anyway to get a volt reading on this so I can convert to watts?
 
No, because you do not need a voltage to maintain a magnetic field, the only time there needs to be a voltage across the magnet is when you are ramping up the field.
In fact, most high-field electromagnets are made from superconducting wire so once you have ramped up the field you can turn off the source.
Hence, the energy needed depends on propeties of the magnet you are using; although if you know the current an inductance you can of course just use LI^2/2 to calculate the energy stored in it.

That said, if you look at the NHMFL website you will see that their 45T magnet uses 33 MW of power (it is a hybrid magnet).

http://www.magnet.fsu.edu/mediacenter/features/meetthemagnets/hybrid.html
 
With a non-superconducting coil you do need to apply some voltage in order to maintain the current, which is what produces the magnetic field. The voltage depends on the resistance of the coil and and the current through it via Ohm's Law.
 

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