How the plug works in both in both directions in socket?

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The discussion revolves around the functionality of electrical plugs in sockets, specifically addressing how devices operate regardless of the orientation of the plug. Participants explore the concepts of alternating current (AC) and the implications of hot and neutral wires in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that devices work regardless of plug orientation, questioning the necessity of distinguishing between hot and neutral wires.
  • Others mention that certain appliances have polarized plugs to prevent inversion of hot and neutral connections, emphasizing safety features.
  • A participant explains that in alternating current, the roles of hot and neutral switch back and forth, suggesting that the potential difference is what matters for operation.
  • Concerns are raised about the functionality of testers, with one participant clarifying that testers detect voltage rather than current.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of polarized plugs in ensuring safety, particularly in lamp fixtures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the implications of plug orientation and the operation of AC. While some acknowledge the alternating nature of current, others emphasize the importance of polarized plugs for safety. The discussion remains unresolved on the broader implications of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in understanding the operation of AC and the function of testers, as well as assumptions regarding the safety of non-polarized plugs. The discussion does not resolve the confusion surrounding these topics.

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If I plug my electrical device in the socket in any direction the device works. If i plug the device in opposite direction, it makes no problem. while the current in the socket is coming in hot wire.
Is there hot and neutral also in the wire connected to the device or they are both hot ?
 
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123kid said:
If I plug my electrical device in the socket in any direction the device works. If i plug the device in opposite direction, it makes no problem. while the current in the socket is coming in hot wire.
Is there hot and neutral also in the wire connected to the device or they are both hot ?
It is alternating current. Part of the time the "hot" wire is pushing current into the circuit and that current is sinking into the neutral wire. Then a fraction of a second later the hot wire is pulling current and the neutral is sourcing it. It does not matter which wire is "hot" and which wire is "neutral". All that matters is the potential difference between the two. That difference is the same regardless of which way you plug in.
 
Hi there,

Its because the current alternates back and forth between poles, look up some DC vs AC theory.

Hope that gets you going the right direction.
 
Michael V said:
Hi there,

Its because the current alternates back and forth between poles, look up some DC vs AC theory.

Hope that gets you going the right direction.
But when i check the socket with tester, it just shows the current in one hole. ( This AC current my greatest confusion these days )
 
123kid said:
But when i check the socket with tester, it just shows the current in one hole. ( This AC current my greatest confusion these days )
Your tester does not detect current. It detects voltage.
 
123kid said:
But when i check the socket with tester, it just shows the current in one hole. ( This AC current my greatest confusion these days )
jbriggs444 said:
Your tester does not detect current. It detects voltage.
ok .. thank you.
 
DrClaude said:
Some appliances have polarized plugs, such that you cannot invert hot and neutral: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/hsehld.html
Note that having a polarized 2-prong plug has at least two important functions:

-1- As mentioned in the Hyperphysics link, it let's you be sure that the power switch for the device is in the Hot lead.

-2- For lamps like the one below, the more exposed threads part of the bulb socket is connected to the Neutral line, and only the small button down in the bottom of the bulb socket is connected to Hot. That makes light fixtures much less of a shock hazard...

https://softsolder.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/img_2327-interior-of-3-way-lamp-socket.jpg
img_2327-interior-of-3-way-lamp-socket.jpg
 
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