How to calculate confidence interval not on t-table

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The discussion revolves around calculating confidence intervals for percentages not typically found on the t-table, specifically focusing on 97% confidence intervals under the assumption of a normal distribution with unknown σ and sample sizes less than 30. Participants explore methods and tools for performing these calculations.

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  • One participant inquires about calculating a 97% confidence interval without a t-table, questioning if a specific formula exists.
  • Another participant suggests using a calculator capable of computing the inverse of the cumulative t-distribution, providing a Mathematica example for the calculation.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding terms like "inversecdf" and "studenttdistribution," seeking clarification on the tools needed for the calculation.
  • Further clarification is provided about the official name of the t-table and the meaning of "inversecdf," along with suggestions for using the invT-function on different calculator models.
  • Participants note that the invT-function may not be available on the TI-83+, but alternatives for calculating it are mentioned.

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Participants exhibit varying levels of understanding regarding the calculation methods and tools, leading to some confusion and requests for clarification. There is no consensus on a single method for calculating confidence intervals for non-standard percentages.

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Limitations include the lack of clarity on the availability of certain functions on specific calculators and the potential need for additional resources to perform calculations accurately.

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So as the title says. How do you calculate the confidence interval that is not on the t-table. For example how do you calculate the confidence interval for 97%? Assume that it is a normal distribution, you are not given σ and that n<30. Is there a formula? Or should i look for a more specific t-table?:P
 
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Notoriousb3 said:
So as the title says. How do you calculate the confidence interval that is not on the t-table. For example how do you calculate the confidence interval for 97%? Assume that it is a normal distribution, you are not given σ and that n<30. Is there a formula? Or should i look for a more specific t-table?:P

You need a calculator that can calculate the inverse of the cumulative t-distribution.

In Mathematica this would be: inversecdf[ studenttdistribution[n-1], 0.015 ] for the lower bound, which is negative.
In this formula n-1 is the so called "degrees of freedom", usually designated "df".
And 0.015 is half of the remaining chance, which is (1 - 0.97) / 2.
Since the t-distribution is symmetric, the upper bound equals minus the lower bound.

You can evaluate this for yourself on the web:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=inversecdf[+studenttdistribution[29

Does this answer your question?
 
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Sorry but I don't understand your response what is "inversecdf" and "studenttdistribution". Also what kind of calculator would I need to calculate the inverse of the cumulative t-distribution? I'm rolling on a ti-83 plus and this baby has yet to fail me. Just to be clear, I know how to calculate a confidence interval for the following 80%, 90%, 95%, 98% and 99%. But I would like to know how you would calculate the confidence interval that cannot be solved with the student t distribution. i.e 93%, 97% etc.
 
Notoriousb3 said:
Sorry but I don't understand your response what is "inversecdf" and "studenttdistribution". Also what kind of calculator would I need to calculate the inverse of the cumulative t-distribution? I'm rolling on a ti-83 plus and this baby has yet to fail me. Just to be clear, I know how to calculate a confidence interval for the following 80%, 90%, 95%, 98% and 99%. But I would like to know how you would calculate the confidence interval that cannot be solved with the student t distribution. i.e 93%, 97% etc.

The offical name of the t-table is the student-t-distribution-table.
"inversecdf" stands for the inverse of the cumulative distribution function.

To calculate this on a graphical calculator you can use the invT-function.
However it seems this function is not available on the ti-83+, but is available on the ti-84.
But there are ways described on the internet how to do this anyway with the ti-83+.

I found a youtube video describing exactly you problem and how to solve it on your calculator:



And I found another procedure to calculate invT on:

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/fkizer/Instructions/tiusrmanstat83.htm"
 
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