How to Calculate the Cyclotron Magnetic Dipole Moment in a Penning Trap?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic dipole moment of cyclotron motion in a Penning trap, specifically as a function of the cyclotron quantum number and expressed in terms of Bohr's magnetron.

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  • Participants explore the definition of magnetic dipole moment and its relation to current and area. Questions arise about the relevance of external sources and the specific definitions of cyclotron quantum number and angular momentum.

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Participants have acknowledged the homework nature of the question and are actively discussing relevant concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding expressing angular momentum and current in terms of mass, charge, radius, and speed.

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Hello, this is a question regarding Penning trap design.

I need to calculate the magnetic dipole moment of the cyclotron motion, as a function of the cyclotron quantum number. The result needs to be given in terms of Bohr's magnetron.

The magnetic dipole moment is defined as current x area enclosed by current.
 
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Izzyg said:
I need to calculate the magnetic dipole moment of the cyclotron motion, as a function of the cyclotron quantum number. The result needs to be given in terms of Bohr's magnetron.
Just curious. Is this a homework question?
 
Indeed it is. So far I have found
{\displaystyle {\boldsymbol {\mu }}={\frac {-e}{2m_{\text{e}}}}\,\mathbf {L} \,,}
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment, but I can't see current x area enclosed there.

Cyclotron quantum number must be
{\displaystyle E_{n}=\hbar \omega _{\rm {c}}\left(n+{\frac {1}{2}}\right)+{\frac {p_{z}^{2}}{2m}},\quad n\geq 0~.}
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landau_levels
 
dlgoff said:
Is this a homework question?
Izzyg said:
Indeed it is.
Thread moved to the advanced physics homework forum.
 
Izzyg said:
So far I have found
{\displaystyle {\boldsymbol {\mu }}={\frac {-e}{2m_{\text{e}}}}\,\mathbf {L} \,,}
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_magnetic_moment, but I can't see current x area enclosed there

Consider a particle of mass ##m## and charge ##q## moving in uniform circular motion of radius ##r## and speed ##v##.

Can you express the angular momentum ##L## in terms of ##m##, ##r## and ##v##?

Can you express the current ##I## due to the motion of the charge in terms of ##q##, ##r## and ##v##?
 
TSny, thank you for your message, really helpful. I think I've now found what I need: μ = (-e/2m)L = IA
 
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