How to Calculate Voltage for Hydrogen and Deuterium Ions in a Magnetic Field?

  • Thread starter Thread starter eoghan
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ions Motion
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the potential difference required to direct hydrogen and deuterium ions towards different sensors in a magnetic field. The context includes concepts from electromagnetism and ion motion in magnetic fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the potential difference and the resulting velocities of the ions, as well as the geometry of their circular motion in the magnetic field. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of distances between sensors and the nature of the ion trajectories.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants clarifying the relationship between the distances involved and the circular paths of the ions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of the distance between the sensors as related to the diameters of the circular paths.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of visual aids, such as figures, to fully understand the problem setup and the relationships between the various parameters involved.

eoghan
Messages
201
Reaction score
7

Homework Statement


Some hydrogens and deuterium ions are accelerated by a potential difference V. These ions entered then in a region with a magnetic field B orthogonal to their velocity. In the position H and K (along the axis parallel to the velocity) there are two sensors and the distance between them is d. Find the the V you need to make the hydrogen ions go towards H and deuterium towards K


2. Relevant data
d=0.8cm
B=0.4T
q(e)=1.6*10(-19)
m(H)=1.67*10^-27
m(D)=3.34*10^-21Kg


The Attempt at a Solution


Velocity of the ions after the acceleration by a potential difference V:
qV(1)=1/2mv^2+qV(2) ==> v=sqrt[(2qV)/(m)] where m is m(D) or m(H)

motion of the ions in the magnetic field: circular motion with radius:
r(D)=v(D)m(D)/qB
r(H)=v(H)m(H)/qB

The distance between the two sensors is d, so r(D)-r(H)=d ==> 4qV=dqB ==> V=0,00008V

Is this right?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Without seeing a figure of the magnetic field region, we can't say.

By any chance are the ion trajectories 90 degrees, or 1/4, of a full circle?
 
It's 1/2 circle
 

Attachments

  • B.jpeg
    B.jpeg
    24.1 KB · Views: 470
Okay, that makes more sense now.

The distance between H and K is not the difference in radii of the two circles. Can you look at the figure again and see how that distance does relate to the circles?
 
Is it the difference between the diameters?
 
Now it works... thanks!
 

Similar threads

Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
4K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 46 ·
2
Replies
46
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 26 ·
Replies
26
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K