How to Compute Conditional Probability Without Deriving f(y)

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The discussion revolves around computing conditional probability, specifically P[y>x], using given functions f(x) and f(y|x) without deriving f(y). The subject area includes probability theory and the concepts of joint and marginal distributions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between joint distribution f(x,y) and the marginal distribution f(y), questioning whether P[y>x] can be computed without deriving f(y). There is a focus on understanding the implications of the given functions and the geometric interpretation of the probability.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants clarifying concepts and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of f(x,y) instead of f(y) for evaluating the probability, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about deriving f(y) and its relevance to the problem, indicating a potential gap in information or understanding of the relationships between the functions involved.

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I'm stuck on a problem. I was given f(x) and f(y|x) and was able to derive f(x,y). The second step of the problem is computing P[y>x]. I think I need to know f(y) to answer this problem but I can't figure out how to derive it. Or is there a way to compute P(y>x) given the info I know without deriving f(y)?

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P(y>x) is simply the probability that a point (x,y), lies above the line x=y. Do you remember how to do double integrals between curves?
 
I understand that part. My problem (I think) is that I need to evaluate when f(y) has points above the line x=y and I do not know how to derive f(y). Does that make any sense?
 
BookMark440 said:
I understand that part. My problem (I think) is that I need to evaluate when f(y) has points above the line x=y and I do not know how to derive f(y). Does that make any sense?

You use f(x,y) not f(y) because it is the function f(x,y) that is the distribution for a point (x,y). f(y) only gives the distribution for y.
 

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