How to Derive the Density Difference in Van Der Waals Phase Transition?

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The discussion revolves around deriving the density difference in the context of Van der Waals phase transitions, focusing on the relationship between gas and liquid densities at critical temperature and pressure conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore various starting points, such as the virial expansion and relationships involving critical temperature and pressure. There are attempts to rearrange equations related to temperature and density, with questions about the differences in temperature and pressure for gas and liquid phases.

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The discussion includes multiple approaches to the problem, with participants providing suggestions and references to external resources. There is an ongoing exploration of how to relate phase change to density, particularly at critical conditions, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants note the importance of considering limiting processes for density at critical points and the implications of using specific methods like the Widom Insertion Method. There is also mention of homework constraints and the need to derive specific relationships without providing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement
Show that $$\rho_{gas}-\rho_{liquid}\propto |T_C-T|^\frac{1}{2}$$.
Relevant Equations
$$P=\frac{\rho RT}{1-\rho \beta}-\alpha \rho^2$$
Not sure where to actually start. Do I need to do a virial expansion? Any tips on on where to start would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Start by writing down alpha and beta in terms of TC and PC.
 
Rearrange the given equation for T. Now,at critical point density is infinite. So, use limiting process for density.
 
Abhishek11235 said:
Rearrange the given equation for T. Now,at critical point density is infinite. So, use limiting process for density.
Would T and P be different for $$\rho_{gas}$$ and $$\rho_{liquid}$$?
Right now, after rearranging, I get
$$T=\frac{P-\rho \beta P+\alpha \rho^2-\alpha \beta \rho^3}{R\rho}$$
which gives
$$T=\frac{- \beta P+\alpha \rho-\alpha \beta \rho^2}{R}$$
when I let $$\rho$$ go to $$ \infty$$
 
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Diracobama2181 said:
which gives
$$T=\frac{- \beta P+\alpha \rho-\alpha \beta \rho^2}{R}$$
when I let $$\rho$$ go to $$ \infty$$

As it should(There is very exciting physical phenomenon related to this). Now you want to find relation between phase change and density. For this,you have to approach one temperature(The critical temperature)(Why?). Next,the pressure should be same(This should become clear if you P-T graph of phase change relationship)
 
Diracobama2181 said:
Homework Statement:: Show that $$\rho_{gas}-\rho_{liquid}\propto |T_C-T|^\frac{1}{2}$$.
Homework Equations:: $$P=\frac{\rho RT}{1-\rho \beta}-\alpha \rho^2$$

Not sure where to actually start. Do I need to do a virial expansion? Any tips on on where to start would be greatly appreciated.
Use the Widom Insertion Method
 

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