How to determine convergence and divergence

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of sequences, specifically examining examples such as an = cos(2/n) and an = (1 + 2/n)^n. Participants are exploring the definitions and implications of limits in relation to convergence.

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  • Participants are questioning the relationship between limits and convergence, particularly whether a limit implies convergence. They also discuss specific sequences and their behaviors, such as the sequence defined piecewise and the limit of (1 + 2/n)^n.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of convergence and divergence, while others are exploring specific examples and the reasoning behind their limits. There appears to be a productive exchange of ideas, with some guidance offered on handling limits involving indeterminate forms.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and conditions under which sequences are classified as convergent or divergent, with some assumptions about prior knowledge of limits and exponential forms being discussed.

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I've been having some trouble understanding how to determine if a sequence is divergent or convergent. For example

an = cos(2/n)

I know if I take the limit as n ->\infty then I will get 1. So the sequence has a limit but does having a limit mean that the sequence is convergent.
 
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Hi MHrtz! :smile:

Yes, saying that a sequence has a limit (which should not be infinity) is equivalent to saying that the sequence converges.
If the limit doesn't exist (or is infinite), then the sequence diverges.
 
What about other sequences like

an {1 n = 2k k is an integer
{0 otherwise

It's divergent only sometimes right?
 
MHrtz said:
What about other sequences like

an {1 n = 2k k is an integer
{0 otherwise

It's divergent only sometimes right?

A sequence is either convergent or divergent. There's no such thing as divergent "only sometimes". This particular sequence is divergent since it doesn't come close to any number.
 
Ok, so i did some more problems and came across this one:

an = (1 + 2/n)n

When I took the limit I though it was 1 but the book said that the limit was e2. How is this possible?
 
The problem is that you probably reason as follows:

(1+2/n) goes to 1, n goes to infinity, so (1+2/n)n goes to 1^{+\infty}=1. The problem is however that 1^{+\infty} is an undetermined form and does not equal 1! Check your calculator, if you type in large values of n, then you'll see that (1+2/n)n does not go to 1!

How to solve this problem then. Well, it depends on what you seen.
Some students have (1+1/n)^n\rightarrow e as a separate formula. Then you just need to transform (1+2/n)n into something of the form (1+1/m)m (hint: m=n/2)

If you haven't seen that separate formula, then you can always do

(1+2/n)^n=e^{n\log(1+2/n)}

so you just need to show that

n\log(1+2/n)\rightarrow 2
 

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