How to determine direction of forces?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the direction of forces in a structural system. The user initially misinterprets the direction of forces, believing that a cable pulls upward while the structure pulls downward, indicating equilibrium. However, clarification reveals that the vector DB is not a force but a position vector, which is crucial for determining the correct direction of the force. The user realizes that normalizing the position vector and multiplying it by the force magnitude provides the correct force components. Ultimately, the key takeaway is that accurately defining the line of action (LOA) of the associated force is essential for proper analysis.
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I am consistently getting this wrong. To me, in the picture below, it would make sense that the structure would be pulling downward, and the cable BD would be pulling upward - thus the system is in equilibrium.

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However, the solution to this problem show the force being applied downward onto the structure:

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What is the trick?
 
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DB is not a force. It is measured in mm, so it must be the position vector of point B w.r.t. point D.

B = (480, 0, 600) mm
D = (0, 510, 280) mm

DB = (480, -510, 320) mm
 
I was using the sense of the line to determine the position vector, as you mentioned. I know that DB is not a vector, but if you normalize DB and then multiply the resulting vector by the magnitude of the F along that cable then you effectively have deduced the components of the force.

My problem is that, knowing the force should be from B -> D, I took D-B and got the opposite of what you have shown: DB = (-480, 510, -320).

Given two points, the way you subtract (D-B or B-D) does not matter for the magnitude of the line, but to get an accurate sense of the line you cannot do this action arbitrarily - as I have seen.

I see now though, that the definition of the line is nothing more than determining the LOA of the associated force.
 
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