How to Evaluate the Volume Bounded by Given Surfaces?

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The problem involves evaluating the volume bounded by the surface defined by the equation z = 2 + x^2, the cylinder described by x^2 + y^2 = a^2, and the x-y plane. The subject area pertains to multivariable calculus, specifically volume integration in cylindrical coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the Jacobian and its application in the volume integral. There are inquiries about the appropriate limits for integration, particularly for the z-coordinate. Some participants suggest using cylindrical coordinates to facilitate the evaluation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the setup of the integral and the necessary transformations. There is a focus on determining the limits for z and confirming the use of cylindrical coordinates. No consensus has been reached yet, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Participants note that the cylinder does not involve z, indicating its role as a lateral boundary, while the top and bottom surfaces are defined by z = 2 + x^2 and the x-y plane (z = 0), respectively. There is an emphasis on ensuring the correct interpretation of these boundaries in the context of the volume calculation.

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Homework Statement



Using a suitable Jacobian, evaluate the volume bounded by the surface ##z = 2 +x^2##, the cylinder ##x^2 + y^2 = a^2## (where ##a## is a constant), and the ##x-y## plane.

Homework Equations



##x = r cos{\theta} ##
##y = r sin{\theta} ##

The Attempt at a Solution



I determined the Jacobian to be ##r##.
The limits for ##\theta## would be from ##0## to ##2 \pi##.
The limits for ##r## would be from ##0## to ##a##.

Could anyone kindly guide me through the problem?
 
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Alex_Neof said:

Homework Statement



Using a suitable Jacobian, evaluate the volume bounded by the surface ##z = 2 +x^2##, the cylinder ##x^2 + y^2 = a^2## (where ##a## is a constant), and the ##x-y## plane.

Homework Equations



##x = r cos{\theta} ##
##y = r sin{\theta} ##

The Attempt at a Solution



I determined the Jacobian to be ##r##.
The limits for ##\theta## would be from ##0## to ##2 \pi##.
The limits for ##r## would be from ##0## to ##a##.

Could anyone kindly guide me through the problem?
Well, you went to the trouble to calculate a Jacobian for this problem, now what do you do with it?

There must be some formula where the Jacobian appears.
 
SteamKing said:
Well, you went to the trouble to calculate a Jacobian for this problem, now what do you do with it?

There must be some formula where the Jacobian appears.

Hi there SteamKing. I will use the Jacobian when I evaluate the integral.

## \int_{r_1}^{r_2} \int_{\theta_1}^{\theta_2} \int_{z_1}^{z_2} r \ dz d{\theta} dr ##
something like that.
 
Have you at least sketched the region? It is bounded below by the xy-plane, z= 0, above by z= 2+ x^2, and on the side by the cylinder x^2+ y^2= a^2. From any point in the xy-plane, inside that cylinder, the height is 2+ x^2- 0= 2+ x^2. Convert that to cylindrical coordinates.
 
Using HallsofIvy's post, you need to use cylindrical co-ordinates to compute the integral and obtain the answer.

More formally, what you are doing is an integral transform by changing variables. You should have a change of variables theorem lying around telling you:

$$\iiint_D f(x, y, z) \space dV = \iiint_{D^\prime} f(r \text{cos}(\theta), r \text{sin}(\theta), z) \space J_{r, \theta}(x,y) \space dV' = \iiint_{D^\prime} f(r \text{cos}(\theta), r \text{sin}(\theta), z) \space J_{r, \theta}(x,y) \space dz d\theta dr$$

Where ##J_{r, \theta}(x,y)## is the Jacobian of the invertible transformation and ##dV' = dz d\theta dr## for cylindrical co-ordinates. For this particular problem:

$$J_{r, \theta}(x,y) = \left| \begin{array}{cc}
x_r & x_{\theta} \\
y_r & y_{\theta} \\
\end{array} \right| \quad \quad

x = r \text{cos}(\theta), y = r \text{sin}(\theta)$$

You have already found ##J_{r, \theta}(x,y) = r##. You have also found the limits for ##r## and ##\theta## already. What about the limits for ##z##? What does ##z = 2 + x^2## look like? It looks like it's bounded below by something.
 
Oh thank you guys for your replies. Zondrina, the problem I am having is determining the limits for Z.
 
x^2+ y^2= a^2 does not involve z so is the cylinder forming the sides. The "top" and "bottom" must be given by z= 2+ x^2 and the "xy- plane" which is z= 0,
 

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