How to Find the Theoretical 0-60 mph Time of a Car?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on calculating the theoretical 0 to 60 mph time of a car based on its weight, torque, and power output. Participants explore the application of the work-energy theorem and the appropriate unit conversions necessary for the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for the power output of the engine and the work needed to accelerate the car to 60 mph, resulting in a theoretical time of 16.7 seconds.
  • Another participant points out a unit confusion regarding the use of pounds as a unit of force versus mass, suggesting a conversion to mass is necessary for the work equation.
  • A further inquiry is made about the implications of unit conversions, specifically regarding how to relate the work calculated to the power output of the engine.
  • A side note is mentioned about the operation of a continuously variable transmission (CVT), indicating that it typically allows the engine to operate at peak power rather than peak torque for optimal performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to unit conversions and the implications for the calculations. There is no consensus on the final theoretical 0 to 60 mph time, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the most accurate method to calculate it.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of unit conversions and the assumptions made regarding the constant power delivery from the engine. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary for a definitive answer.

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Homework Statement


A car weighs 2200 lbs, has a peak torque of 750 lb ft at 6500 RPM. Assume a CVT and racing differential keeps the power to all four wheels of the car constant and equal. What is the theoretical 0 to 60 mph time?


Homework Equations


Fd = \frac{1}{2}m v_f ^2 - \frac{1}{2}m v_0 ^2
P = \frac{\tau \times \omega}{\Delta t}


The Attempt at a Solution


So the power output of the engine is going to be P = \frac{(750 lb ft)(6500 rpm)(2\pi rad)}{60 sec} = 510,250 \frac{ft lbs}{sec}
The amount of work needed to get the car up to 60 mph from rest ideally would be W = \frac{1}{2}(2200 lbs)(\frac{60 mi * 5280 \frac{ft}{mi}}{3600 sec})^2 = 8,518,400 ft lbs
Dividing those two numbers gives us 16.7 sec. I don't know if my approach is right with the work-energy theorem or if I have to use some other metric for calculating the time because I'm sure it's not that slow if the engine is pushing nearly 1000 hp...
 
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Yeah, you confused the units a little bit. lbs is a unit of force, you have to convert that to a unit of mass for it to work in the work equation (divide by acceleration due to gravity here on Earth).

You can see a problem occurs because your final units in the work equation are lbs*ft^2/s^2 and not lbs*ft
 
But wouldn't that mean my units for work will be slug ft^2 / s^2? How would I convert that to compare it to the power of the engine?
 
Wait, slug ft/s^2 = lb, so that would work... thanks
 
Side note - normally a CVT allows an engine to operate at the rpm for peak power, not peak torque, since with optimal gearing, maximum torque at the real wheels for any given speed (except zero or near zero speeds in a real world situation) corresponds to maximum power from the engine.
 

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