How to find verify solution to differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation (DE) and verifying potential solutions. The original poster describes their typical method of checking solutions by substituting derivatives into the DE but expresses confusion about a specific problem shown in an attached photo. A participant suggests using partial derivatives with respect to both x and t, emphasizing the importance of the chain rule in this context. Clarifications are provided on calculating the first partial derivatives, correcting misconceptions about the results. The conversation highlights the need for understanding partial derivatives and their application in solving differential equations.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start on this problem. Usually, if I am given a possible solution to a DE, say y(t)=cos(t) as a solution to y''-y'+y=sin(t), I find whether it was a solution or not by manipulating it and then plugging it into the second equation that it may be a solution to and then seeing whether the resulting statement is true. For the ex. problem I give in this section, I would do this:
y'= -sint
y''= -cost
then sub them in: -cost +sint +cost = sint
and by simplifying get: sint = sint
so for this case, it y=cost is a solution.
But with the problem that is in the attached photo I have no idea what to do.

Does anyone have an guidance as to how I can solve the attached problem?
Thanks :)
 

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digipony said:

Homework Statement



See attached photo

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


I don't even know where to start on this problem. Usually, if I am given a possible solution to a DE, say y(t)=cos(t) as a solution to y''-y'+y=sin(t), I find whether it was a solution or not by manipulating it and then plugging it into the second equation that it may be a solution to and then seeing whether the resulting statement is true. For the ex. problem I give in this section, I would do this:
y'= -sint
y''= -cost
then sub them in: -cost +sint +cost = sint
and by simplifying get: sint = sint
so for this case, it y=cost is a solution.
But with the problem that is in the attached photo I have no idea what to do.

Does anyone have an guidance as to how I can solve the attached problem?
Thanks :)
Here's the "photo":

attachment.php?attachmentid=50458&d=1346730413.jpg


Well, find \displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct) and then the partial with respect to x of that.

Do the same with partials with respect to t.

Then plug all that in.
 
I don't have much experience with partial derivatives, am I on the right track here: the first partial derivative with respect to x, \displaystyle\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct) be: 1, therefore the second would be 0?
 
Sorry for the formatting on that, I had not even heard of LateX before finding this site.
Oh never mind this, it's fixed.
 
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digipony said:
I don't have much experience with partial derivatives, am I on the right track here: the first partial derivative with respect to x, \displaystyle\frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct) be: 1, therefore the second would be 0?

No.

\displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial x} f(x-ct) = (1)\cdot f'(x-ct)\,, because d/dx (x) = 1 .

Similarly \displaystyle \frac{\partial}{\partial t} f(x-ct) = (-c)\cdot f'(x-ct)\,.
 
Oh, so that's what the reference to chain rule was about! Thank you! :smile:
 
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