How to get a 30um (micrometer) laser diameter?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of achieving a laser diameter of 30 micrometers for use in an Atomic Force Microscope (AFM) project. Participants explore the feasibility of focusing a laser to this diameter, the implications of laser size on measurement accuracy, and potential equipment alternatives within a budget.

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Main Points Raised

  • A participant suggests that expanding the laser beam to fill the back aperture of a microscope objective could allow focusing down to 30 micrometers, potentially placing the cantilever at the beam waist for optimal reflection.
  • Another participant notes that the actual size of a 30 micrometer spot is difficult to perceive, as it is smaller than a human hair, and recommends using a scanning method with a slit smaller than 10 micrometers to measure the spatial intensity distribution.
  • There is uncertainty regarding whether the existing laser can indeed be focused to 30 micrometers, with a participant questioning the necessity of achieving this specific diameter for effective reflection off the cantilever.
  • Concerns are raised about the visibility of the laser spot and the potential for misinterpretation of its size when projected onto various surfaces.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity of achieving a precise 30 micrometer laser diameter and whether the existing laser setup can meet this requirement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the effectiveness of the proposed methods and the capabilities of the laser in question.

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Participants mention the limitations of visual perception in measuring small laser spots and the potential need for specific equipment to accurately assess laser diameter and intensity distribution.

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Greetings everyone. I am a mechanical engineering student whose professor challenged him to a project that requires some optics knowledge. After years of quietly reading the physics forums I am finally making my first post. If this question ends up in the wrong forum, feel free to move it to the correct one.

So I am building an Atomic Force Microscope (at least trying to), if anyone has any knowledge of them. Basically I need to reflect a laser off a cantilever of diameter 30um (positioned at an 11 degree angle), and into a photo-detector. My lab has this laser: https://www.thorlabs.com/thorproduct.cfm?partnumber=CPS635F which claims to have a 30um diameter when focused. Well, when I test the laser on surfaces such as walls, tables, etc, the diameter surely does not look 30um. However I am not sure if this is because the rating is off, or the surfaces are just reflecting the laser in many directions and making it appear wider.

My first question: I have a suspicion that if the laser diameter is larger than the cantilever, that there will still be light reflected off of it, and therefore having the laser focused to under 30um is not necessary. Is this correct? Or would it greatly benefit me to reduce the laser diameter?

My second question: Is the laser we have capable of being focused to 30um if that is a necessary or desirable goal?

Thirdly: If this laser blows and won't work for my purposes. Can anyone point me in the right direction for a set up that would cost under $300?
I tried doing some physics last week using some lens equations but wasn't having much luck. If anyone has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.
 
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FourierTransform said:
If anyone has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Not exactly sure what your setup is like, but it's easy to focus a laser down to 30um- expand it so it fills the back aperture of a microscope objective, and presto- at the focus the beam waist can be made as small as the diffraction limit. Put the cantilever at the beam waist, the reflected beam will go back through the objective and emerge at an angle relative to the incident beam- that's the principle of an optical cantilever.
 
FourierTransform said:
the diameter surely does not look 30um
You can never see the actual size of that spot: 30 ##\mu ##m is less than a hair. All your eyes can make of it is a bright dot. You'll need to scan across with a ##< 10 \mu##m slit to measure the spatial intensity distribution.
 
BvU said:
You can never see the actual size of that spot: 30 ##\mu ##m is less than a hair. All your eyes can make of it is a bright dot. You'll need to scan across with a ##< 10 \mu##m slit to measure the spatial intensity distribution.

Or just wear appropriate goggles
 

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