How to Prove a Relation is Partially Ordered?

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The discussion revolves around proving that a relation is partially ordered, focusing on the properties of reflexivity, antisymmetry, and transitivity. Participants are examining a specific relation R defined on a set X and questioning how to demonstrate these properties effectively.

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  • Participants are attempting to outline the necessary checks for reflexivity, antisymmetry, and transitivity but are questioning the completeness of their definitions and the specific nature of the relation R.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the requirements for a relation to be partially ordered, with some participants seeking clarification on the definition of the relation itself and how to express the properties formally. Multiple interpretations of the relation are being considered, and guidance is being offered regarding the need for a clearer definition.

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Some participants note that the relation R is not fully defined, which raises questions about how to apply the properties of partial orders without a complete understanding of the mapping involved.

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Hello,

I am trying to find out how you can prove that a relation is partially ordered.
I know that it must be reflexive, antisymmetric and transitive but if a relation is given how do you write that it should be partially ordered?

For example I have the relation R: X\leftrightarrowX
I want to check if it is partially ordered...
\forallx1:X | x1 |---> x1 \in X \wedge reflexive
\forallx2:ran X | x1 |---> x2 \in X \wedge x1\neqx2 \Rightarrow x2 |---> x1 \notin X antisymmetricbut how do you show transitivity?

Thanks
 
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StIgM@ said:
Hello,

I am trying to find out how you can prove that a relation is partially ordered.
I know that it must be reflexive, antisymmetric and transitive but if a relation is given how do you write that it should be partially ordered?
I'm not sure I understand your question, but if the relation is reflexive, antisymmetric, and transitive, then it is partially ordered.
StIgM@ said:
For example I have the relation R: X\leftrightarrowX
I want to check if it is partially ordered...
\forallx1:X | x1 |---> x1 \in X \wedge reflexive
\forallx2:ran X | x1 |---> x2 \in X \wedge x1\neqx2 \Rightarrow x2 |---> x1 \notin X antisymmetric
What is the relation? You haven't given a definition of the relation, so how can you show that it is reflexive, antisymmetric, and transitive?
StIgM@ said:
but how do you show transitivity?

Thanks
 
For example it is given the relation R:X<--->X
So, we want to check if it is partially ordered.

The only checks that we have to write are:

\forAll x:X | x-->x \in R
\forAll x,y:X | x--->y \in R \and x\notEqual y \isthecasethat y--->y \notIn R
\forAll x,y,z:X | x--->y \in R \and y--->z \in R \implies x--->z \in R

Are these correct?
 
StIgM@ said:
For example it is given the relation R:X<--->X
This doesn't define the relation. It just says that R is a relation between some set X and itself. It doesn't say how a given x value is mapped to the one it's related to.

Does a value x in X get mapped to itself? In that case the relation would be "=".

I think you are missing an important piece here.
StIgM@ said:
So, we want to check if it is partially ordered.

The only checks that we have to write are:

\forAll x:X | x-->x \in R
\forAll x,y:X | x--->y \in R \and x\notEqual y \isthecasethat y--->y \notIn R
\forAll x,y,z:X | x--->y \in R \and y--->z \in R \implies x--->z \in R

Are these correct?
 

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