How to prove something is closed and bounded, ie compact

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Homework Help Overview

The original poster needs to prove that a closed ball and a sphere are closed and bounded. The discussion revolves around understanding the definitions of these terms and how they apply to the problem at hand.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the definitions of "closed," "bounded," "closed ball," and "sphere." There are attempts to clarify what it means for a set to be closed and bounded, with some participants expressing uncertainty about these definitions.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of definitions and concepts related to closed and bounded sets. Some participants have provided various equivalent definitions of closed sets, while others are questioning their understanding of boundedness. The discussion is ongoing, with no consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of clarity regarding the definitions needed to proceed with the proof. There is mention of a textbook that may not provide sufficient guidance on these concepts.

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Homework Statement


I need to prove that a closed ball(radius r about x0) is closed and bounded. The same goes for a sphere(radius r about x0).


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The Attempt at a Solution


How does one go about proving something is closed and bounded? My book is not very helpful and searching hasn't yielded much. This is only a part of the problem, but the rest should be doable once I get this.
 
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Start by giving the definitions of "closed ball", "sphere", "closed" and "bounded".
 
Well I'm lacking on the definition of "closed" and "bounded" which is what I need to get started
 
MeMoses said:
Well I'm lacking on the definition of "closed" and "bounded" which is what I need to get started

What book are you using? Aren't those things in there?
 
Ok so I assume i can prove something is bounded if every neighborhood of point along the edge(ie at r from x0) contains both a point in the ball and outside the ball. I just took that from the boundary point definition, now that doesn't imply something is closed does it?
 
MeMoses said:
Ok so I assume i can prove something is bounded if every neighborhood of point along the edge(ie at r from x0) contains both a point in the ball and outside the ball. I just took that from the boundary point definition, now that doesn't imply something is closed does it?
That's not what bounded means. In fact, bounded has nothing to do with boundary. A bounded set is one that is fits inside a ball of some finite radius.

There are various equivalent definitions of closed. You must find out which one your book is using. Some possibilities:
* a set is closed if and only if its complement is open
* a set is closed if and only if it contains all of its limit points
* a set is closed if and only if it contains all of its boundary points
 

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