How to Solve a Conical Tank Calculus Problem

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The discussion centers on solving a calculus problem involving a conical tank draining water. The correct approach requires focusing on the change in height (dh/dt) rather than the radius (dr/dt) when determining how fast the water level is dropping. The calculations initially presented were incorrect, leading to confusion about the answer, which is actually 5/(9π) m/min. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly interpreting the problem's requirements to arrive at the right solution. Clarifications highlight the need to relate the radius and height accurately to derive the correct rate of change.
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I have a calculus question and was wondering if some could help me see what I am doing wrong in this question. Thank you

A conical tank with an altitude of 10m and whose base has a radius of 4m is mounted with its vertex down. The tank is full of water which is draining through the vertex at the rate of 5 m^3/min. how fast is the level of the water dropping when the radius is 3?

the answer is 5pi/9

this is how i did it:

r/h=4/10
h=5pi/2

V=[(pi)(r^2)(h)]/3
V=[(pi)(r^2)(5r/2)]/3
V=[pi5r^3]/6
dv/dt=[15pi(r^2)]/6] * dr/dt
5=[(15pi(3^2)]/6] * dr/dt
dr/dt= (2pi)/9
 
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Firstly, the answer is actually \frac{5}{9\pi}\frac{\mbox{m}}{\mbox{min}}, not \frac{5\pi}{9}\frac{\mbox{m}}{\mbox{min}}.

Secondly, are you sure \frac{d r}{d t} is what the question is looking for? Re-read it.
 
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punjabi_monster said:
I have a calculus question and was wondering if some could help me see what I am doing wrong in this question. Thank you

A conical tank with an altitude of 10m and whose base has a radius of 4m is mounted with its vertex down. The tank is full of water which is draining through the vertex at the rate of 5 m^3/min. how fast is the level of the water dropping when the radius is 3?
the answer is 5pi/9

this is how i did it:

r/h=4/10
h=5pi/2

V=[(pi)(r^2)(h)]/3
V=[(pi)(r^2)(5r/2)]/3
V=[pi5r^3]/6
dv/dt=[15pi(r^2)]/6] * dr/dt
5=[(15pi(3^2)]/6] * dr/dt
dr/dt= (2pi)/9

Notice how the question asks for how fast the level of the water is dropping. This would mean a change in height with respect to time, not the radius. Since it's asking for the rate of change when the radius is 3 then:

r=\frac{3h}{10}
V=\frac{1}{3} \pi (\frac{3h}{10})^2 h
V= \frac {3}{100} \pi h^3
\frac {dV}{dt}= \frac{9}{100} \pi h^2 \frac{dh}{dt}

Solving for dh/dt should get you the answer \frac{5}{9\pi}\frac{\mbox{m}}{\mbox{min}} as stated above by Data.
 
You actually need to use r = \frac{2h}{5}. But other than that you're completely right.
 
thanks for your help.
 
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