How to Solve a Differential Equation for Water Flow in a Cylindrical Tank

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation related to water flow in a cylindrical tank. The problem involves water being pumped into the tank at a constant rate while also leaking out through a hole, leading to a dynamic situation described by the equation A h'(t) = k - αa (2gh(t))^1/2, where various constants and variables are defined.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of the left-hand side of the equation and question the form of the expression they are working with. There are attempts to clarify the integration process and the use of substitutions. Some participants express confusion about the integration techniques and the structure of the equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different integration methods and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have provided guidance on integrating specific forms, while others are seeking clarification on their approaches and the assumptions they are making.

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There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the constants A and a, as well as the integration techniques being employed. Participants express uncertainty about the correct methods to apply in this context.

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Homework Statement



Water is pumped into a cylindrical tank with cross section area A at a constant rate k, and
leaks out through a hole of area a in the bottom of the tank at the rate
αa (2gh(t))^1/2
where g is the acceleration due to gravity, h(t) is the depth of water in the tank at time t,
and α is a constant with 0.5 ≤ α ≤ 1.0. It follows that
lim h(t)
t→∞



Homework Equations



A h'(t) = k-αa (2gh(t))^1/2



The Attempt at a Solution



all i got to is [ A/ k-αa (2gh(t))^1/2 ] dh = dt

I can't seem to solve the differential equation to get h(t)
 
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Hi vorse! :smile:

(shouldn't your "a" should be the same as "A"? oh, and have a square-root: √ :wink:)

The LHS is of the form (P + Q√h)dh … so just integrate it. :wink:
 
A and a are different; they are both constant however, so it shouldn't matter much in the integration;


"The LHS is of the form (P + Q√h)dh … so just integrate it." what do you mean by this form?


If i let u = P+Q√h
then du = 1/2Q(h)^-1/2 right? and this substitution doesn't work. I don't have anything to substitute for the du; can you clarify a little bit?
 
vorse said:
A and a are different; they are both constant however, so it shouldn't matter much in the integration;


"The LHS is of the form (P + Q√h)dh … so just integrate it." what do you mean by this form?


If i let u = P+Q√h
then du = 1/2Q(h)^-1/2 right? and this substitution doesn't work. I don't have anything to substitute for the du; can you clarify a little bit?


(P + Q√h)dh = Pdh + Qh1/2dh
Can't you integrate these two expressions without resorting to a substitution?
 
well, I tried separating the denominator into the form f(x) = A/cx+d +B/dx+e, etc... i think it's called partial separating integration or something, not sure, but that didn't work out. I think I'm here is because I don't know how to integrate the following equation.
 
vorse said:
well, I tried separating the denominator into the form f(x) = A/cx+d +B/dx+e, etc... i think it's called partial separating integration or something, not sure, but that didn't work out. I think I'm here is because I don't know how to integrate the following equation.

What
denominator?

I don't see a fraction. :confused:
 
all i got to is [ A/ k-αa (2gh(t))^1/2 ] dh = dtsee the A is divided by ( k-αa (2gh(t))^1/2)

so, in a clearer way to write it [A / ( k-αa (2gh(t))^1/2)]dh = dt

btw, what programs are out there where I can type math equations on the comp?
 

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