How to Solve Intermediate Value Theorem Problems for Students

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Intermediate Value Theorem (IVT) in the context of proving continuity for a polynomial function over a specified interval. The original poster shares a problem statement and seeks clarification on their teacher's notes regarding continuity and the proper approach to solving the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the continuity of the function at specific points and question whether showing continuity at the endpoints is sufficient for the entire interval. There are discussions about the definitions of limits and continuity, and whether the original poster's interpretation aligns with mathematical standards.

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Some participants provide guidance on the continuity of polynomials and suggest that the original poster may not need to prove continuity from scratch, but rather utilize known theorems. There is an ongoing exploration of what constitutes a complete solution in the context of the IVT.

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Participants note the lack of a clear problem statement and discuss the implications of the teacher's notes, which suggest that the focus should be on using the IVT rather than proving continuity in detail.

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I attached my problem as a JPEG file. The black ink is my own work, and the green ink is my teachers note's. If you are confused by the part that states these two steps prove continuity, I considered the evaluation of the function at a value and the evaluation of the limit at the same value to be one step, that's why there is two.
Well, I asked my teacher to write the proper way to write the solution to this sort of problem, but evidently she did not. So, I was wondering if someone could possibly interpret her notes, and also if someone could show me the mathematically proper way to solve this problem.



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You only showed that the function is continuous at -3 and +3, not on the whole interval [-3,3].

Don't you have any theorems you can cite, to the effect that every polynomial is continuous at all points?
 
Doesn't taking the limit of -3 from the right side and the limit of 3 from the left side prove continuity of the interval?
 
Bashyboy said:
Doesn't taking the limit of -3 from the right side and the limit of 3 from the left side prove continuity of the interval?

No, it just proves continuity (from the right) at -3, and continuity (from the left) at +3.

If you were to change the value of your function at say, x = 0, so that a discontinuity was formed, your calculations would not capture this fact.
 
Bashyboy said:
Doesn't taking the limit of -3 from the right side and the limit of 3 from the left side prove continuity of the interval?
No, not at all. In fact, this doesn't prove much of anything.

You're confusing the concepts of the limit of a function at a point and the continuity of a function.

For a function f, if the two one-sided limits exist at a number a and are equal, then the two-sided limit exists. IOW, if
[tex]\lim_{x \to a^-} f(x) = L, \text{ and }\lim_{x \to a^+} f(x) = L[/tex]
then
[tex]\lim_{x \to a} f(x) = L[/tex]

A function f is continuous at a number a in its domain provided that
[tex]\lim_{x \to a} f(x) = f(a)[/tex]
 
Well, the limit is taking values that become increasingly closer to, for instance, -3; so if we are taking values from the right of -3 that would be all the values of (-3, 3], but since it's a polynomial I can just simply input the value -3 three. I don't see how it doesn't prove continuity. That is what my professor taught; to find continuity, she said you need to find out if the limit and the function equal each other.
 
Bashyboy said:
Well, the limit is taking values that become increasingly closer to, for instance, -3; so if we are taking values from the right of -3 that would be all the values of (-3, 3]
No, it wouldn't. The limit involves values of x that are close to -3, and just to the right of it.
Bashyboy said:
, but since it's a polynomial I can just simply input the value -3 three. I don't see how it doesn't prove continuity. That is what my professor taught; to find continuity, she said you need to find out if the limit and the function equal each other.
That's continuity at a point, which I mentioned in my last post. For a function to be continuous on an entire interval, it has to be continuous at each point in the interval, and you didn't show that.
 
Yes, what your professor said is true- to prove that a function is continuous at x= a show that [itex]\lim_{x\to a} f(x)= f(a)[/itex]. What you have done is show that this function is continuous at x= -3 and at x= 3, not at every point on the interval. If you have the theorem that every polynomial is continuous at every x, you can use that. If not, look at [itex||f(x)- f(a)|= |(x- a)^2+ 2(x- a)|= |x- a||x- a+ 2|[/itex].
 
Well, then how do I prove continuity on the interval?
 
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What is the statement of the problem? From your work it seems that you need to show that for some number c in [-3, 3], f(c) = 2. You don't show the problem statement, so I'm not sure that you need to prove that your function is continuous on that interval. Since f is a polynomial, and polynomials are continuous everywhere, it seems to me that your focus should be on proving that f(c) = 2 for some number in [-3, 3]. As HallsOfIvy already said, there's probably a theorem in you book about the continuity of polynomials.
 
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I don't have the statement of the problem; this was a bonus question on a quiz that she wrote on the whiteboard.
 
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Bashyboy said:
Well, then how do I prove continuity on the interval?

Your teacher wrote "also cont. (-3,3) - could use poly". I'd interpret this to mean that you should use the fact that polynomials are continuous functions to say that it's continuous, not prove it's continuous from scratch. The idea of this exercise isn't to prove continuity, it's to use the IVT.
 
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I believe that is all my teacher wanted me to do, to be able to use the Intermediate Value Theorem. So, what is missing from my own solution to the problem?
 
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Bashyboy said:
I believe that is all my teacher wanted me to do, to be able to use the Intermediate Value Theorem. So, what is missing from my own solution to the problem?

You didn't give a reason why f(x) is continuous. I think she just wanted you to say 'f is continuous on [-3,3] because f is a polynomial'.
 
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So, is every other part to my solution correct?
 
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Bashyboy said:
So, is every other part to my solution correct?

Pretty much. Given that you know f is continuous because it's a polynomial, you can omit the limit parts and just say what f(-3) and f(3) are. Then I think she also wants you to explicitly say how you used the IVT.
 
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Okay, so I found an intermediate value theorem question in my textbook. The question is verify that the intermediate value theorem applies to the indicated interval. My solution to the problem is in the attached file. Would this be an appropriate answer on a test?
 

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Bashyboy said:
Okay, so I found an intermediate value theorem question in my textbook. The question is verify that the intermediate value theorem applies to the indicated interval. My solution to the problem is in the attached file. Would this be an appropriate answer on a test?

That looks pretty good to me. Except that f(0)=(-1). And the IVT doesn't find a value of x, it just tells you one exists, as you say later on.
 
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One other thing: you say "... the given interval, [], will be continuous..."

It's the function, not the interval, whose continuity is being asserted.
 

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