How To Superimpose AC Signal Onto DC Line?

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The discussion revolves around the technical challenge of superimposing an AC signal onto a DC line, specifically in the context of a 7.83 Hertz sine wave oscillator used for environmental experiments related to the Schumann Earth resonance. Participants explore methods for achieving this superimposition and the implications of the Schumann resonance characteristics.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Christopher describes his oscillator setup and questions whether the Schumann resonance is an AC sine wave or a pulsing DC sine wave.
  • He proposes using a capacitor to allow the AC signal to pass while keeping the DC contained, and suggests using a voltage divider to obtain a 6 volt DC signal.
  • Another participant mentions that biasing the AC signal with a pull-up from the DC signal or using a resistor divider is common for audio signals, and confirms the use of an AC coupling capacitor.
  • This participant also notes the possibility of putting the AC and DC voltage sources in series, though expresses uncertainty about its practical application.
  • Christopher inquires about the need for a large capacitor due to the low frequency of the oscillator and seeks clarification on implementing the pull-up from the DC signal.
  • A later reply points out that the coil's low DC resistance may present a heavy load to the driving source and suggests using an op-amp for offset voltage, while questioning the necessity of the oscillator in relation to the Schumann effect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the Schumann resonance and the methods for superimposing AC onto DC. There is no consensus on the best approach or the implications of the resonance characteristics.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential limitations related to the load presented by the coil and the characteristics of the AC coupling capacitor, but these aspects remain unresolved.

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Hello all! First post!

I've built a 7.83 Hertz sine wave oscillator that is fed into a 1,000 wind coil (soft iron rod/bifilar windings/self cancelling) and have tested in out on my oscilliscope and it's working beautifully with a peak voltage of 5.8 VAC (4.1 RMS AC). This device is being used as an environmental experiment to re-establish the Schumann Earth resonance.
The one issue that I've been pondered about the Schumann Resonance is whether it is considered a AC sine wave (positive side alternating to negative side) or if it is more of a pulsing DC sine wave (fluxating amplitude, positive the entire time).
My device is a simple Wein-Bridge oscillator and I would like to take a 6 volt DC line and superimpose the oscillator on top of it. Theoretically getting a sine wave going in amplitude from .2V to 11.8V. I think this can be accomplished by simply using using a capacitor that acts as a wall for the AC to pass through whilst keeping the DC contained.
One thought I had was to simply use the same positive supply rail that powers the oscillator and run it through a voltage divider network with resistors (easy) in order to get the 6 volt signal. I then send take that 6 volts and met it up with a T point with the capacitor, and then on to the coil and ground.
I thought I would see if someone if familiar with this little 'trick'.

Thanx and Namaste,
Christopher
 
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orgonefred said:
Hello all! First post!

I've built a 7.83 Hertz sine wave oscillator that is fed into a 1,000 wind coil (soft iron rod/bifilar windings/self cancelling) and have tested in out on my oscilliscope and it's working beautifully with a peak voltage of 5.8 VAC (4.1 RMS AC). This device is being used as an environmental experiment to re-establish the Schumann Earth resonance.
The one issue that I've been pondered about the Schumann Resonance is whether it is considered a AC sine wave (positive side alternating to negative side) or if it is more of a pulsing DC sine wave (fluxating amplitude, positive the entire time).
My device is a simple Wein-Bridge oscillator and I would like to take a 6 volt DC line and superimpose the oscillator on top of it. Theoretically getting a sine wave going in amplitude from .2V to 11.8V. I think this can be accomplished by simply using using a capacitor that acts as a wall for the AC to pass through whilst keeping the DC contained.
One thought I had was to simply use the same positive supply rail that powers the oscillator and run it through a voltage divider network with resistors (easy) in order to get the 6 volt signal. I then send take that 6 volts and met it up with a T point with the capacitor, and then on to the coil and ground.
I thought I would see if someone if familiar with this little 'trick'.

Thanx and Namaste,
Christopher

You can bias the AC signal with a pull-up from the DC signal or a resistor divider. This is very common for audio signals.

Also like you said, you can use an AC coupling capacitor to isolate your AC source from the DC voltage. I did this for a audio cable project once. You still will be biasing the AC signal with a DC voltage and resistor, and you select the resistor to so that the cutoff frequency is not in your bandwidth.

You can also put the AC and DC voltage sources in series, but I'm not sure if this is actually done in practice.
 
Hello Dragon Petter and thank you for the reply.

Do you think that since this is a very low frequency that it will need the use of a large capacitor?

I'm very interested in your mention about the pull up from the DC signal. How would this be done? Perhaps I've already thought of the correct answer but it will be a little bit until I am able to try it out.

Cheers,
Christopher
 
Your coil probably doesn't have much DC resistance, so if you have a DC component, this small resistance will present a heavy load to whatever is driving it.

You could get an offset voltage with an opamp, but if the load was almost a short circuit to DC, then the output from an opamp would be low.

Why are you using an oscillator? Isn't the Schumann effect caused by lightning around the world and your function would be mainly to listen to it with a receiver?
 

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