How to use Wave equations for uniform plane waves

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the application of wave equations to analyze the electric field in free space, specifically the expression E = (a + b)exp(-jkx), where a and b are nonzero real constants. Participants explore whether this expression satisfies Maxwell's equations and attempt to derive the corresponding k and H fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the electric field equation and questions if it satisfies Maxwell's equations, indicating uncertainty in their understanding.
  • Another participant confirms the equation and suggests starting with Maxwell's equations in differential form to analyze it.
  • A participant inquires whether the dispersion relation k² = μεω² is universally applicable or if it varies with E and H.
  • It is noted that the value of k will depend on the specific situation being analyzed.
  • One participant derives the magnetic field H from the curl of E and expresses concern about the implications of their findings, particularly regarding the non-zero constants a and b.
  • Another participant provides typographical suggestions for clarity in mathematical expressions, emphasizing proper notation for vectors and functions.
  • A participant reiterates the conclusion that for the derived conditions to hold, a must equal 0, which contradicts the problem's stipulation that a and b are non-zero constants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to analyze the electric field in relation to Maxwell's equations, but there is disagreement regarding the implications of the derived results, particularly concerning the values of a and b. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore different interpretations and calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made regarding the constants a and b, as well as the dependence on the specific context of the wave equation. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of the results.

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Homework Statement


Home work 3 Q1

Study the E
field in free space and a source-free region, E= (a + b)exp(-jkx), where a and b are nonzero real constants, and in the x,y plane respectively.
Does it satisfy Maxwell’s equations? If so, find the k and H fields . If not, explain why not.


Homework Equations


wave equation - dell^2 E + omega^2 mu epsilon E =0
Faraday's law - curl E = -j omega mu H
dispersion relation - k^2 = omega^2 mu epsilon

The Attempt at a Solution



Please excuse my lack of understanding I am a bit old for trying to get this degree.curl E = -bjkexp(-jkx) in the z direction,
= -j omega mu H
so H = [(b/(omega mu))exp(-jkx)]z = [(b/omega mu)cos(omeg t - kx)]z

for finding k using the wave formula I think I am to curl E twice and get
[-bk^2exp(-jkx)]z + k^2 ([a exp(-jkx)]x + [b exp(-jkx)]y) = 0
= exp(-jkz) ([k^2 a ]x + [k^2 b ]y + [-bk]z) = 0
then ([k^2 a ]x + [k^2 b ]y + [-bk]z) = 0
I feel like I am beating a dead horse here.
 
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Your equation is $$\vec E = (a\hat\imath + b\hat\jmath)e^{-jkx}$$ ... is that correct?

The first step is to see if the equation satisfies Maxwell's equations.
So you start by listing Maxwell's equations - the differential form is probably easiest.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/maxeq.html
 
Thanks, yes that is the equation. I will work on those after work. So is ## k^2=μ\varepsilon\omega^2## always the solution for k or does it vary with E and H?
 
What k turns out to be will depend on the situation.
 
So back to the original problem ## \underline{E}=(\hat{x}a+\hat{y}b)exp(-jkx)##

to start solving Maxwells equations
##\nabla x \underline{E} = j \omega\mu\underline{H}##
I get ##\nabla x \underline{E} = [-jbk exp(-jkx)]\hat{z}##
So ##[-jbk exp(-jkx)\hat{z} = j\omega\mu\underline{H}##

solving for H gives me ##\underline{H} = [-1/(\omega\mu)]kbexp(-jkx)]\hat{z}##

assuming this is correct so far I now solve ##\nabla x \underline{H}##
and I get ##[(1/(\omega\mu))]k^2 bexp(-jkx)]\hat{y}##
which should ##= j\omega\varepsilon\underline{E}##
but solving for ##\underline {E}## I get ## \underline{E}= [(1/(\omega^2 \mu\varepsilon))k^2bexp(-jkx)]\hat{y}##
If ##k^2 =\omega^2\mu\varepsilon## then ##\underline{E}=[bexp(-jkx)]\hat{y}##
so for this to be true a would have to equal 0, a=0, but the original problem states that a and b are non zero real constants so this can not exist.

does this appear correct?
 
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Just some notes on typography first:

Are you using an underline to indicate a vector?
Try using "\vec" instead, or "\mathbf" ...

the exponential function \exp[-jkx] gets ##\exp [-jkx]## ... in general, putting a backslash in front of a function name will (probably) typeset the function properly.

The cross product sign is \times so $$\vec\nabla\times\vec E = \frac{\partial}{\partial t}\vec B$$

aside: the tilde under a letter as in ##\underset{\sim}{E}## is a typographical notation that tells the typesetter to "make this character boldface". So it would get printed as ##\mathbf{E}##. The more modern text for a vector is ##\vec E##
 
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Back to business:
...for this to be true a would have to equal 0, a=0, but the original problem states that a and b are non zero real constants
... that's what I am thinking also.

I got there from ##\vec\nabla\cdot\vec E = 0##
 

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