How to wire a house using 3 phase

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges and considerations involved in rewiring a house to utilize 3-phase power delivered via a dedicated transformer. Participants explore the distribution of various appliances across different phases, including air conditioners and hot water units, and seek advice on the appropriate distribution unit and safety measures such as RCD protection.

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the intention to split hot water units and air conditioners across phases and inquires about the necessary distribution unit for single-phase circuit breakers.
  • Another participant suggests that while the project is likely doable, it depends on specific details and emphasizes the importance of hiring a qualified electrician.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that there is no standard for residential 3-phase wiring, indicating that each circuit must be individually designed for its specific equipment.
  • Concerns are raised about the legal and safety implications of DIY electrical work, suggesting that a licensed engineer may be necessary for design and compliance with local codes.
  • One participant reiterates the need for professional help, warning about potential liabilities from improper installation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of hiring professionals for the project, but there is disagreement regarding the extent to which homeowners can engage in the wiring process themselves. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of the wiring standards and practices for 3-phase residential setups.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of a standardized approach for residential 3-phase wiring, which may complicate the design and installation process. There are also references to local codes and regulations that may limit homeowner involvement in such electrical work.

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We are getting 3 phase power delivered to our property via our own dedicated transformer. We want to rewire the house and other buildings so that we can use different appliances on different phases. We have 4 air conditioners, 3 hot water units and the usual assortment of things you would find in a house. The other buildings have a similar setup.

It seems to make sense to split the hot water units across each phase and to do something similar with the air conditioners.

But the big question is what sort of distribution unit do I need to achieve this? It will have 3 phase power going in and then it needs to supply single phase circuit breakers that may each be connected to one of the three phases.

We also want the system to be protected by an RCD.

Is this doable?
 
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Yes, it's probably doable. But it does depend on the details.

Your next, AND ONLY GOOD CHOICE, is to hire an electrician. This falls into the category: if you have to ask the question, you don't have the knowledge to do it yourself.
 
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Hey, hiring an electrician is definitely a way to go, but we still can give some advice as to what is considered a good practice. OP never said they want DIY, they want to learn - even if only to understand what the hired electrician is saying :wink:

One thing for sure: if you plan on having any kind of computer network with computers/routers/whatevers connected by ethernet cables, they should be all connected to the same phase.
 
DaveE said:
Yes, it's probably doable. But it does depend on the details.
Doable kinda. The problem is there is no 3--phase standard for residential wiring. There is no standard plug or amperage. Every circuit needs to be individually designed and wired for the specific piece of equipment it is powering.

DaveE said:
Your next, AND ONLY GOOD CHOICE, is to hire an electrician. This falls into the category: if you have to ask the question, you don't have the knowledge to do it yourself.
Or maybe an engineer before the electrician. Codes say that a certain amount of electrical work may be done by homeowners but I am not clear on the limits of that. I would expect that it does not extend to 3-phase wiring. I would expect for this that the township or or municipality requires signed and sealed design drawings from an engineer (the electrician should know though)..

I will leave this open for now but with a short leash and I will bring it up for discussion in the moderators forum.
 
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I'm going to close this temporarily during the Moderator discussion...
 
doggy said:
We are getting 3 phase power delivered to our property via our own dedicated transformer. We want to rewire the house and other buildings so that we can use different appliances on different phases. We have 4 air conditioners, 3 hot water units and the usual assortment of things you would find in a house. The other buildings have a similar setup.

It seems to make sense to split the hot water units across each phase and to do something similar with the air conditioners.

But the big question is what sort of distribution unit do I need to achieve this? It will have 3 phase power going in and then it needs to supply single phase circuit breakers that may each be connected to one of the three phases.

We also want the system to be protected by an RCD.

Is this doable?
So it sounds like you have had your local power utility route power to a pole at the edge of your property, and are asking how to proceed from there. It is of course do-able to now bring that power onto your property and use it in the best way, but asking for advice on a web forum about how to engineer and install such a system is the wrong way to go about it. Instead, hire a licensed engineer and electrician to design the system, pull the permits, install the system, and get it inspected and signed off.

If there are any mistakes made in the design and implementation of the system, you could be liable for any injuries or damages caused (both on your property and off your property if you start a fire that spreads to other properties).

DaveE said:
Yes, it's probably doable. But it does depend on the details.

Your next, AND ONLY GOOD CHOICE, is to hire an electrician. This falls into the category: if you have to ask the question, you don't have the knowledge to do it yourself.
This.

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