How TVs Detect Plugged-In Headphones

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how televisions detect when headphones are plugged in, specifically addressing the mechanisms involved in cutting off speaker sound. Participants explore various theories and experiences related to this functionality, touching on both technical aspects and user experiences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how a TV can detect an unsoldered 3.5mm jack, suggesting there may be a sensor that gets shorted when a jack is inserted.
  • Another participant asserts that the physical insertion of the jack opens a contact to the speakers, thus cutting the circuit.
  • Some participants express frustration with modern TVs, indicating that they lack certain features like audio channel BNCs and cannot output sound to both headphones and speakers simultaneously.
  • There is a mention that not all TVs automatically cut audio to the speakers when headphones are plugged in, with some requiring manual silencing via remote control.
  • One participant highlights scenarios where a hard-of-hearing viewer might want to use headphones while another person prefers to listen through the TV speakers.
  • Another participant raises a broader question about what information TVs can detect, referencing privacy concerns related to smart TVs and their data collection practices.
  • Concerns are expressed about the implications of digital TV technology on user privacy and control, with references to the ability of broadcast stations to influence channel selection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the functionality of TVs and the implications of modern technology. There is no clear consensus on the mechanisms of headphone detection or the desirability of current TV designs.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the design choices of modern TVs and their impact on user experience, as well as unresolved questions about the technical workings of headphone detection.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the technical aspects of audio output in televisions, those concerned with user experience in modern electronics, and readers interested in privacy implications of smart technology.

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When I plug in a pair of headphones in the back of my tv, it cuts of the sound to the speakers. But If a I plug just an unsoldered 3.5mm jack, it still cuts of the sound to the speakers. How does it know there is a jack plugged in when, technically, the circuitry would detect that as the same as nothing in there. It's really just extending the leads by a little bit, with no connections being made.

Is there an extra sensor in there the gets shorted when a jack goes in?
 
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Don't overthink it. The insertion of the jack physically pushes open a contact to the speaker, cutting the circuit.

See diagram
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DaveC426913 said:
Don't overthink it.
I wish my TV's designers hadn't over-thought it. These new-fangled digitals, as nice as they are, don't have audio channel BNCs and you can't use the these phone jacks to grab the signals and listen to the speakers at the same time. :oldgrumpy:
 
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dlgoff said:
I wish my TV's designers hadn't over-thought it.

It's everywhere.
Tower of Babel myth is playing out.
 
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jim hardy said:
It's everywhere.
Tower of Babel myth is playing out.
We can defeat them. If we live long enough. :oldwink:
 
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Jd0g33 said:
How does it know

Never anthropomorphize TV sets. They hate it when you do that. :-)
 
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Apparently, not all TVs cut audio to the speakers when the headphones are plugged in. Some require the speakers be silenced via the remote control. (This point arose in responses to someone asking for recommendations re a second TV for the bedroom.)
 
NascentOxygen said:
Apparently, not all TVs cut audio to the speakers when the headphones are plugged in. Some require the speakers be silenced via the remote control. (This point arose in responses to someone asking for recommendations re a second TV for the bedroom.)
Now that's over-thinking.
 
There would be some situations where a hard-of-hearing viewer would like to have amplification via headphones, while the other partner wants to listen to the TV at normal volume.

Then other situations where each wants a separate TV in the same room.
 
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Maybe the question should be

"What does the TV know?"
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2476476,00.asp

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As first reported by The Daily Beast, Samsung's Smart TV privacy policy includes the following warning.

"Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition," the site says.

Telemarketer's dream.
I wonder if one could adapt an old analog tuner with the rotary channel switch to his digital TV.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is the first thing I thought about when digital TV came into existence. The fact that it is no longer a one way path from the origination of programming to the TV set means that a lot of securities that we took for granted are out the window.
 
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If one reads the digital TV standards he finds there's amazing amount of control in the broadcast signal.
The originating station can select your channel for you.

If you have fifteen minutes to read a classic sci-fi short story about over-automation,

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/29579/29579-h/29579-h.htm
"I know that," Gelsen said, feeling extremely uncomfortable. "I believe there might be a moral danger in allowing a machine to make decisions that are rightfully Man's," he declared doggedly.
 

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